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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e35d041$0$2528$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Crackdown on drivers ignoring no entry signs. Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:59:30 +0100 References: <2HOYp.29238$js7.12243@newsfe01.iad> <4e3412b3$0$2502$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> <57p83799k4gdtp400c6f01abg7g64p80e9@4ax.com>  Lines: 37 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 5f66401c.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=UKO8?7>jd > "Phil W Lee"  wrote in message > news:57p83799k4gdtp400c6f01abg7g64p80e9@4ax.com... >> Nuxx Bar  considered Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:18:26 >> +0100 the perfect time to write: >> >>> On 30/07/2011 08:47, Doug wrote: >>>> On 30-Jul-2011, "Simon Mason"  wrote: >>>> >>>>> Local drivers are putting walkers and cyclists in danger by >>>>> ignoring a no >>>>> entry sign and will face a crackdown. >>> >>> I just hope that cyclists who ignore the sign will also be fined. >> >> What for? >> There is an exemption for them. >> >> Do you really think it is a good idea for police to waste their and >> the courts time by issuing tickets that will be over-ruled by the >> courts? > > On a related note, I wonder how many cyclists ever get fined for > entering an ASL not via the dashed access lane but directly over the > driver's stop line. I have never been pulled up for doing it, despite it > being technically illegal.

Ooh, I didn't know that. "Technically" illegal eh?

Now, two questions.

1) Do you think drivers should be fined for entering an ASL over the "drivers'" stop line while the light is red?

2) Do you think cyclists should be fined for entering an ASL over the "drivers'" stop line while the light is red?