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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9d7dfc4a-ef63-4d89-8b36-908b0861d50f@e11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: uk.rec.cycling.moderated prediction Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:43:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <1j3k153.1yppdwb1yevqv4N%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk> Lines: 38 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.153.43.65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248767023 13310 127.0.0.1 (28 Jul 2009 07:43:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.153.43.65; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.12) Gecko/2009070611 Firefox/3.0.12 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3111 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:720717

On Jul 28, 8:19=A0am, real-not-anti-spam-addr...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote: > The new group, once created, will cease to be necessary. > > The vast majority of normal people will prefer to use it. That means > that the trolls and nutcases won't have an audience.

Who are these "trolls" exactly? And can you cite individual posts of theirs where they have actually trolled (as opposed to expressing their opinions, or daring to argue with people you like and/or showing them up as stupid/liars/etc)? Thought not.

It's time that the regulars and their lapdogs/sock puppets (e.g. "D.M. Procida") stopped misusing the word "troll". Just because telling it how it is and saying "people who disagree with me" instead of "trolls" substantially weakens your position, doesn't mean that you have carte blanche to lie and label people as "trolls" when you know perfectly well that they're nothing of the kind. If telling it how it is weakens your position so much, perhaps it's time to review that position in an honest fashion.

The URC Regulars' Motto: "If you don't like a true fact, then never mind, just pretend that it's not true; that's easier than changing your stated opinion on something and admitting you were wrong". Examples of true facts to which this is regularly applied are:

- There aren't any prolific posters who are genuinely trolls on URC, and there haven't been for years. - Speed cameras cost lives. - Many URC regulars are "vehemently anti-motorist" (Chapman even admitted exactly that on his own website, until he figured that he'd better remove it if he was going to keep up the charade that he didn't hate motorists). - There are a huge number of anti-motorist measures in the UK. - Guy Chapman made the "piece of shit" L.o.u K.n.e.e post. - I haven't made any abusive phone calls.

VOTE NO TO UK.REC.CYCLING.CENSORED