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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <30f5b32b-8ca4-4f1e-b146-08d44e210a28@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Spindrift: "Vile Car-Hating Fanatic" (Not Said By Me) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:13:42 -0800 (PST) Lines: 66 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.151.152.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1232946822 15283 127.0.0.1 (26 Jan 2009 05:13:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.151.152.80; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4958 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:684013

Spindrift has recently been polluting the SafeSpeed forums with his usual agenda-driven, dishonest, hate-filled rubbish (and refusals to answer any questions), before once again being banned (as he has from oh-so-many other forums, and not just SafeSpeed/PH but all sorts of cycling ones), not for his point of view, but for being a disgusting, trolling cunt as per, who simply makes the same copied and pasted allegations again and again no matter how often they are refuted.

An interesting discussion has resulted, away from the eyes of trolls, where an incredible number of people seem to have the same "misconception" that Spindrift, and a number of other fanatical cycling trolls, hate cars. How strange! It was pointed out that a certain poster was really interested in cycling, and had been perfectly welcome on a particular cycling forum - until they said that they liked cars as well. Immediately, it was made very clear to them that they were no longer welcome. As someone says, in some web- cyclists'* eyes, you are allowed to drive as long as you don't enjoy it too much. It seems that being pro-cyclist is optional and unimportant, whereas being at least somewhat anti-motorist is most definitely mandatory.

When are you absolute fuckwits (you know who you are) going to give it up and admit to hating cars? Why are you so ashamed of doing so? Is it because you know that such hatred can't be defended (in which case, why practise it?) Or is it because you've decided that you'll have a better chance of inflicting misery on drivers if you play dirty and pretend that you care about "safety" or "the environment" instead (in which case you're a lying piece of shit who is weakening genuine safety and environment-related efforts)? Either way, you're scum really, aren't you?

Oh, BTW, several of the contributors to the SafeSpeed thread in question are quite happy to admit, on that very thread, to being fanatical cyclists themselves, and no-one has a problem with that. Why is it that cyclists who enjoy cycling are tolerated on motoring- related forums, but not the other way round? Why are web-cyclists the only ones who discriminate against posters based on which modes of transport they enjoy?

Oh, and if you ever decide to argue with Spindrift (pointless though it is to try to reason with a deranged lunatic) on any forum, for goodness' sake don't let him get hold of your workplace or home address. At best, you'll receive a high volume of deeply disturbing, abusive letters (and the more you stick up for motorists, the sicker the content will be). At worst, you'll have to move due to receiving multiple bomb threats. You have been warned.

(And if, by any chance, you're a reasonable person who supports speed cameras, why do you suppose it is that all of the worst, most demented, most dishonest, most infamous transport policy-related Internet freaks, like Spindrift, Chapman, and Jaded, all seem to support, rather than oppose, cameras? Having read their posts, do you really think that they support cameras because they want to save lives?  Do they seem like altruistic people to you?  Or do they seem like lying, selfish, obsessive, extremist nutters who have an axe to grind against motorists and capitalism and see speed cameras as a way of getting what they want?  Which do you *honestly* think is closer to the truth?  I rest my case.)

-- wanker who frequents cycling forums, may or may not actually cycle, and (despite denying it) hates drivers so much that they are prepared to kill people in order to make things worse for them, while launching despicable and vitriolic hate campaigns against anyone who exposes their anti-motorist weapons for what they are".
 * This has become the term for "Spindrift/Crapman-like car-hating