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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!o20g2000yqk.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <5563f271-1633-420f-ad29-0ca8d27968f6@o20g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Re: Race Face Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:54:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <8up0e7Fi7uU1@mid.individual.net> <8up1d6FpmhU1@mid.individual.net> <8up22eFuivU1@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 43 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.71.49.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1300751647 30360 127.0.0.1 (21 Mar 2011 23:54:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: o20g2000yqk.googlegroups.com; posting-host=82.71.49.124; posting-account=WrLs9woAAAD151hWKA9yknAtxFHW4kE4 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Firefox/3.6.15,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3354 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.moderation:39183

On Mar 21, 10:24 pm, Steve Firth <%ste...@malloc.co.uk> wrote: > Tosspot  wrote: > > On 03/21/2011 02:27 PM, The Todal wrote: > >> Tony Raven wrote: > >>> "The Todal"  wrote: > > >>>> I hesitate to say anything that might cause offence, but frankly > >>>> neither of them has anything so bloody interesting to say that there > >>>> is any need to protect it with PGP codes and signatures and all that > >>>> bollocks. It's a bit like having a conversation with someone in a > >>>> pub who says to you "before I comment on the situation in Libya, > >>>> here's my passport and driving licence. Take as long as you like to > >>>> examine them!". > > >>> More like trusting your bank details to the man that emailed you to > >>> say your account had been compromised just because he appeared to be > >>> from the TSB. In the pub you can see whom it is that's talking. On > >>> line you can't. > > >> On line, you neither know nor care whether the post is from the *real* Simon > >> or Guy, or from someone else playfully using their name. > > > I care. Granted that a few posts were in fun, but that has not always > > been the case. How would you feel if I started posting as 'The Todal' > > with an approximation of a believable email address? > > [snip] > > Excuse me while I stand gobsmacked by your chutzpah. Forging posts that > appeared to be from me was a regular occurrence perpetrated by the URC > pondscum. Most of those forgeries had Chapman's dirty fingerprints all over > them.

And in time-honoured fashion, he hasn't denied it, which is as near to an admission of guilt as you ever get with him.

The "It matters very much who a post is actually from, however unimportant it is" opinion seems mostly to be held by the same people who advocate the URCM-style judging of posts by who has posted them (and what their opinions are) rather than what the post actually says, which of course is no surprise. The crazed determination to punish people who have the "wrong" opinions, no matter what they're actually posting, never ceases to amaze me.