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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news2.euro.net!feeder.news-service.com!news-transit.tcx.org.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e1f4224$0$2536$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: RLJ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:23:15 +0100 References:  <65eb0aac-964c-4c7a-b428-9327c127ba71@dp9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>    Lines: 29 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 51447e6c.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=N4HYkj\9WM=f<^?D`?[F`:nok4Z\f?Jbk8En X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2892 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:816753

On 14/07/2011 16:39, Simon Mason wrote: > On Jul 14, 4:21 pm, Tony Dragon  wrote: >> >> He may not be a liar, it could just be that his vision is selective (AKA >> blind) >> But as he has the video, I think he should put up or shut up. > > I format the card after each ride when I recharge the battery, but I > am sure I can come up with a lawbreaking drivers montage if you really > want one. Do you want speeding, mobile phones, defective lights, fog > light misuse, out of date VED discs, illegal parking, illegal number > plates, illegal overtaking, pavement parking, ASL abuse etc etc or > just the red light jumpers, which includes ASL encroachment, by the > way?

Next journey you make, please keep *all* RLJs: the "good" ones (cyclists), the "bad" ones (motorists/motorcyclists) and the "in between" ones (buses). Then upload them, taking care not to "accidentally delete" any of the cyclist examples, and we'll see how many there are. Who do you think will do more RLJing: cyclists or non-cyclists? Which would you honestly say you see more of overall: cyclists RLJing, or non-cyclists?

(Will this be another unanswered question I wonder, and if so, why? I notice you haven't actually answered Tony's question about how many of these RLJing drivers there were, and how long the light had been red. One rarely if ever sees such flagrant abuse of red lights from motorists: I detest this "Stupid light shouldn't apply to me because I'm saving the planet, so I'm going to jump it on 'principle'" attitude.)