Nuxx:2696885b-fafa-4092-8360-9eb2e1f3c129@r3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!r3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <2696885b-fafa-4092-8360-9eb2e1f3c129@r3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Boris keeps the important traffic flowing Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:45:11 -0700 (PDT) References:    Lines: 54 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.145.66.20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242362711 19191 127.0.0.1 (15 May 2009 04:45:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 04:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.145.66.20; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3808 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:701498

On May 14, 10:31=A0am, Keith T  wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Squashme  wrote: > > > [quoting someone else, I think] > > >> =A0In each case, the cause has been the same: a child has started to > >> =A0cross, only to be marooned in the middle of the road when the green > >> =A0man has started to flash. Like all pelican crossings, it simply > >> =A0doesn't give you enough time, thanks to the Mayor's decision to red= uce > >> =A0the length of time all traffic lights in London stay red in the hop= e > >> =A0of reducing congestion. Linford Christie might be able to make it b= ut > >> =A0a child doesn't stand a chance." > > > I don't think you can entirely blame Boris - the pedestrian phase I > > use most often is so short that at my normal walking pace (as an above > > averagely fit and healthy adult) I get about 80% across the road on > > the green man. =A0This is well outside Boris' sphere of control. > > > With my daughters accompanying me, I typically get to about the white > > lines in the middle of the road. > > > regards, =A0 Ian SMith > > =A0From when the green man/woman/person of indeterminite gender is lit > you've got ten second before they start flashing. At this point you have > to be ready to slap the roof of cars or kick the doors to remind them > that you are still on the crossing.

Yep...motorists are so fundamentally selfish, reckless and unobservant that otherwise they would run you over, either through not seeing you, or deliberately. Wankers, the lot of 'em (except me, because I'm more entitled to drive than the hoi polloi).

> (Not done this for a while but it was frequent when my girls were > younger. Not yet been thumped for it as my rant involves the idea of > them killing my child.

You sound like a joy to share the roads with. I'm sure you're not sanctimonious towards others any more than is necessary.

> Nearly shoved a cyclist off once as he just > missed me and one of my girls, I wouldn't have been too concerned if > he'd ended up in hospital as he was prepared to speed across while > people were in his way.)

I think you might be new here, in which case you should know that the head moderator of URC, Guy Chapman, doesn't permit any criticism of cyclists on this group. Cyclists are all perfect; motorists are all scum. Since you didn't realise, you'll probably get away with it this time, but don't let it become a habit.