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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.news-service.com!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e35d914$0$2527$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another pavement death again! Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:37:08 +0100 References:    Lines: 29 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: fa0d637d.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=45Ugg53\o7OF8iSd;KhnlCnok4Z\ On 30-Jul-2011, Tony Dragon wrote: > >> On 30/07/2011 08:33, Doug wrote: >>> If cyclists think that pavements are safer than roads then read this. >> >> Pavements are for pedestrians, not cyclists. >> > Then please explain why some shared routes are on pavements and why young > children seem to be allowed to cycle on pavements. >> >>> The >>> truth is that anywhere within a few hundred metres of a road, including >>> inside houses, are not safe from crashing killer drivers. >> >> No, not even close to the truth. >> > How do you explain then crashing drivers who demolish the walls of houses > and endanger those inside after crossing both a pavement and a front garden?

It's such a rare occurrence (despite your scaremongering to the contrary) that anyone who is inside a building is *far* more at risk from other hazards (e.g. falling, parts of the building falling or collapsing onto them, electrocution, etc) than they are from freak occurrences involving "killer" cars crashing into the building.

So I guess you'll now be wanting to ban electricity, stairs and indeed buildings as well? Or you won't, because unlike with cars, you don't resent enough the freedom that they provide people from state control.