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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.k-dsl.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!195.114.241.69.MISMATCH!feeder2.news-service.com!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe18.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: "Research" (was Re: Wait like the rest of us) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:55:02 +0000 References: <3qv1l45b5tinu86rqnlsd0etrldm7hbk6j@4ax.com>  	 <55a4l.25545$i_6.5797@newsfe11.ams2> 	  	  	 	  	  	 <8de2b576-5cad-498f-9718-5233591a250d@v42g2000yqv.googlegroups.com> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8de2b576-5cad-498f-9718-5233591a250d@v42g2000yqv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe18.ams2 1230371728 82.21.204.127 (Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:55:28 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:55:28 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3945 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:828022

Squashme wrote: > On 26 Dec, 15:22, _  wrote: >> MatSav wrote: >>>  wrote in message >>> news:chk9l4p2dc5ovhmatlujj3adrj7g4khvl4@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:39:46 +0000, Phil W Lee >>>> <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> Did you know that research has shown that the further a >>>> bicyclist >>>> rides away from the curb - then the less room overtaking >>>> motorists >>>> will allow - ride nearer the curb and motorists give you more >>>> room. >>> Please provide the citation for said research - author(s), date >>> and details of the peer-reviewed journal, if any, and allow me to >>> make my own evidence-based decision. >>> To be technically sound research, it should be a statistically >>> significant sample, repeatable, and have at least one control >>> group against which the hypothesis. I suspect the middle of these >>> three conditions can't be achieved. >>> Additionally, the method of measurement of both the distance from >>> the kerb (not "curb" - go look it up on Google, or any english >>> dictionary, on-line or otherwise) and the clearance distance, >>> should be given. Otherwise, it's just anecdotes - not research. >> No problem. That data will be forthcoming just as soon as you apply the >> same rigour to the data which supports Lee's opposing theory. Oh no, >> hang on, that's not necessary, is it? Data which *supports* cycling >> falls squarely into the 's'obvious, innit' school, where anything >> negative of cycling requires robust evidence which is inevitably >> dismissed anyway! >> You guys really should observe Duhg more, its a mirror into your own >> position in another handful of years :) > > "It was only then that I thought >> of where the exhaust is on the Landy, just behind the passenger side >> mudflap. A few innocent bl > > OOOps, cut off. > A few innocent blips on the throttle sent some lovely black clouds > right > under the cyclists nose. Damn, that was satisfying :)"

Yes, they're both mine. I'm struggling to see the relevance in this context though. What's your point?