Nuxx:1731bc36-f0b5-4731-9b62-4629e1a56ee5@l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <1731bc36-f0b5-4731-9b62-4629e1a56ee5@l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: What is "Primary Position"? Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) References:     <4a3d4465$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Lines: 32 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245606606 7914 127.0.0.1 (21 Jun 2009 17:50:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3081 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:711010

On Jun 20, 9:19 pm, Bod  wrote: > Nuxx Bar wrote: > > On Jun 20, 7:47 pm, "David Lloyd"  wrote: > >> At that point you should adopt the secondary position (no > >> surprises there), which is approx 1m from the curb. > > > Even that's too far (assuming you mean "kerb"). If you're so paranoid > > and untrusting of drivers that you feel the need to constantly ride as > > if they're reckless monsters who need to be prevented from killing you > > (and wouldn't care if they did), it's probably best not to cycle at > > all. Cycling inevitably involves placing trust in drivers...take it > > or leave it, but if you do decide to cycle, don't treat motorists as > > if they're homicidal scum. They don't want to run you over any more > > than you want to be run over, and it's time the car-haters stopped > > pretending otherwise. > > Well said Sir.

Thanks - but that's you branded a "troll" for life I'm afraid. The first rule of URC is: It's not what is said that matters, it's who says it. No-one is ever allowed to say "Well said" to the likes of me, no matter how good a point I come up with. Similarly, no-one is ever allowed to criticise the likes of Chapman, no matter how much venomous crap he spouts. The idea is to simply look at who is posting and make up your mind there and then whether you're going to agree with them or not.

Too bad that you've learnt that lesson too late. If you want a newsgroup or forum where *all* interesting points are discussed (not just those made in favour of the right arguments by the right people), then such places do exist, but unfortunately URC definitely isn't one of them.