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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9f77741b-2ce5-4368-9658-841485aacec9@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Ouch @ Feltham Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:05:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <6framuFcvffhU1@mid.individual.net>  <6frdtdFd0mqnU1@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 40 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.129.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217966734 8839 127.0.0.1 (5 Aug 2008 20:05:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.129.172; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2861 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:660980

On Aug 5, 5:43=A0pm, spindrift  wrote: > On Aug 5, 5:36=A0pm, "Pete Biggs" > > > >  wrote: > > judith wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:42:25 +0100, "elyob"  > > > wrote: > > > >> Hope it wasn't someone from here, but I saw the damage I cycle makes > > >> when a passenger opens a door. There was a police car and ambulance > > >> in attendance, but the cyclist was up and about. The passenger door > > >> was a complete mess, the whole of the window frame was bent right > > >> down and glass everywhere. Hope he's still got his teeth. > > > >> I was coming down on the outside as per usual, and it certainly > > >> re-instated my "don't cycle down the inside" rule. > > > > Assuming the car was stationary and the cyclist was "filtering" - > > > (what a fine term) - it sounds like the cyclist was at fault. > > > The cyclist may have been able to avoid the sitaution, but the car occu= pant > > was wrong to open the door without first checking that no one was comin= g. > > > I know that it is a criminal offence if a driver does it. =A0Not sure a= bout a > > passenger. > > > ~PB > > The driver gets fined if the passenger doors a cyclist- the single > most common cause of injury to cyclists. Filtering is entirely legal > and may reduce a compensation payout, most certainly not criminal > liability.

Cyclist at fault, cyclist not the injured party, Spindrift and his sycophants blame the car occupant. Business as usual.