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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!192.87.166.28.MISMATCH!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e38a0b9$0$2949$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: OT: Organ Donors Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:13:29 +0100 References: <008ed5a6-3049-4f6e-8ec3-49d31d103a34@n35g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> <99kkj1FbvoU1@mid.individual.net> <0kba37pm7co0r9ejelk1c5j38k3udjmlh4@4ax.com>  <467b375hlfi0b70h47nt30to5ha224n609@4ax.com>    <03007667-41b3-4942-97c5-57fe7e2b542d@br5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Lines: 53 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <03007667-41b3-4942-97c5-57fe7e2b542d@br5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 8054d332.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=dimBTQ6_8ZB;cPn7WF_BDFYjZGX^207PK`_c1YQ<7S2@IFYk On Aug 1, 11:17 pm, Peter Keller  wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:55:44 +0100, Simon Mason wrote: >>> "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote in message >>> news:RAsZp.162253$Zn.144893@newsfe30.ams2... >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >> >>>> On 31/07/2011 19:21, Robert wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:34:03 +0100, "Simon Mason" >>>>>  wrote: >> >>>>>> "Derek G."  wrote in message >>>>>>> Very few people have organs to donate. >> >>>>>> Doesn't the Daily Mail call the 1000's of drivers killed each year >>>>>> "organ donors" though? >>>>> No, I do not think so. Perhaps you can find a link. It has certainly >>>>> called cyclists "organ donors"; I wonder why? >> >>>> Really? I'm sure you could provide some links to back that up, then. I >>>> think you'll find that it's motorcyclists who are so described, not >>>> cyclists. >> >>> That's right, but since motorcyclists have driving licences as well, >>> they will have to declare whether they want to donate their organs in >>> case of death. >> >> Bicyclists severely injured in accidents are usually so mashed up that >> their organs would be of no use. Bicyclists are not a good source of >> viable organs. >> >> -- >> If you are riding a bicycle you are winning.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > That's right. > Otherwise we'd have organ donor opts outs in the CTC membership forms, > but the powers that be obviously think there is more of a rich harvest > to be had with driving licence holders. I can see their point, 100 or > so cyclists a year is not a lot to go on.

And you don't think that's simply because there are far, far more motorists than cyclists (because people, I'm afraid, damn them, find the former much more useful)?

You can't have it both ways: either cyclists are the more vulnerable road users, and are constantly becoming victims of reckless motorists in the unequal "struggle" on our roads, in which case one would have to label cycling as "dangerous", or the whole thing is deliberately exaggerated by those whose real agenda is to remove motorists from the roads for "reasons" which are actually nothing to do with safety.