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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.erje.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: URC is Better than it Was Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:38:01 +0100 Lines: 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: b7a276a2.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=??_YVVa:CON4A284j2F0g@SS;SF6nGRiiCXJE[K>G7eK8M_i@<CN`:ITG5aA:cGe8XmOb1J[<G X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 1852 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:840115

Far from becoming "unusable" as some of the more militant cyclists/car- haters have claimed, uk.rec.cycling has actually become a lot more pleasant and useful since many of the militants left for uk.rec.cycling.moderated. We now have a far better balance of opinions, and we have lost the extremists whose philosophy is "don't you dare argue with me or I'll killfile you and complain that you're trolling and making the group unusable in order to cover up the fact that I can't counter your arguments".

URC remains the only place where proper debate can be had about cycling in the UK; on URCM, as we all know, opinions opposite to those held by the moderators are routinely suppressed, meaning that there is no debate as such, just the same old incorrect, prejudiced crap spouted again and again, mixed in with uncontroversial (but also banal and boring) remarks about this and that.

Perhaps URCM hasn't been such a bad thing after all; it's certainly removed the problems that URC was having and made it a much nicer and more interesting place to be.