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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <8q5f25t30lvkhmkuap4595krql6kaoner0@4ax.com>   <0adg25p0p1dqv74ugnjk6t470bsmcd69gj@4ax.com>   <84jj2516n0cv90h97jvum1r7sc0p0n0kep@4ax.com>    <8TSpN2HYgoKKFwEt@[127.0.0.1]>  Lines: 28 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1244495968 25321 127.0.0.1 (8 Jun 2009 21:19:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3241 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:53370 uk.rec.cycling:5210

On Jun 6, 6:37=A0pm, Alistair Gunn  wrote: > > Frankly, the S/N ratio is in the toilet and has been for some time now > and whilst moderation might not be the ideal solution it does happen to > be the only one left that has a chance of working (IMHO).

Depends whether you arrogantly decide that any opinion contrary to yours is "noise" or not. Here's a little test. Are you counting "Cycling is more dangerous than walking" as "noise"? Are you counting "Wearing a helmet makes cycling safer" as "noise"? Are you counting "Speed cameras kill" as "noise"?

If so, you have a deep intolerance towards those who disagree with you, and you are therefore very much a part of the problem round here. You can use words like "noise" all you want in an attempt to dress up your subjective, biased, unfair judgments of people's posts as objective and dispassionate, but it makes no difference to the truth: you hate people expressing an opinion that's different to yours, in particular when it comes to certain subjects, and you want to stop them from doing it.

If you and so many others would just accept that there's nothing wrong with people disagreeing with you (and in actual fact the world would be boring, and much less well off, if everyone thought the same about everything), this group's problems would cease overnight. Another solution, like jettisoning Chapman and Spindrift, which would be far simpler and more effective than this banning of certain opinions dressed up as "moderation".