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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <0e1dc2d8-7346-4bbf-86a4-ae88233afe2d@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Don't feed the troll; was Re: It's The Same Everywhere (was: It's 	The Same Everywhere) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:31:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <176d9ba8-5d2c-40de-814a-5074a9d2ddbd@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> <1drv16063pbwu.1g1p65tgnt71r$.dlg@40tude.net>  Lines: 98 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.206.99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222176680 15710 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2008 13:31:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.206.99; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 7155 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:668850

On Sep 20, 11:58 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:41:58 GMT, _ >  said in > <1drv16063pbwu.1g1p65tgnt71r$....@40tude.net>: > > >On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:37:46 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar wrote: > > Hey, you quoted the entire worthwhile content of Nuxxy's post there!

You didn't like the article I quoted then? Surprise surprise. You wish to censor anything that shows up cameras, their supporters and/or those who profit from them for what they are. You don't like people showing that cameras cost lives. You don't like people exposing the corruption and lies that *always* accompany cameras. You systematically attempt to ridicule and belittle anyone who dares to propagate the truth about cameras. And by doing so, you show again and again what a vile, lying, scheming, deranged, extremist motorist- hating cunt you really are.

I honestly wish you were dead. You make me sick to the stomach. And the fact that so many of the trolls on this group support you, despite it being so screamingly obvious that you have an anti-motorist agenda, and despite your CONSTANT and BLATANT evasion of "difficult" points, shows just what an utter car-hating cesspool this place really is.

No sane person who honestly compared Paul Smith (good guy) to Crapman (genuinely evil, lying bastard) could really believe that Crapman was either right about cameras saving lives, or was going about his sick killing campaign for noble reasons. Therefore EVERYONE here who supports cameras and has read the exchanges between Crapman and Paul has BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.

You all know PERFECTLY WELL that Paul was right. You know PERFECTLY WELL that Paul's aim was to save lives, whereas Crapman couldn't give a fuck about saving lives, and just wanted motorists to be given hell, no matter what the death toll. It's ENTIRELY OBVIOUS when you compare Paul's truthful, honest, straightforward posts to Crapman's deceitful, sneering, calculating, evasive lies (which carry on to this day). You KNOW that Paul was right about cameras, as it couldn't be more obvious, yet you DON'T CARE, and you STILL support cameras. WHY!? HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT CAMERAS WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE *KILLING* PEOPLE? HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK THAT BULLYING MOTORISTS OFF THE ROAD IS JUSTIFICATION ENOUGH FOR DEVICES WHICH *KILL* PEOPLE? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU LOT? ARE YOU THIS UNBELIEVABLY CALLOUS IN OTHER ASPECTS OF YOUR LIVES? IF NOT, WHY THE HELL MAKE SUCH A HUGE EXCEPTION WHEN IT COMES TO PERSECUTING MOTORISTS? IS IT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT IT'S WORTH *KILLING* THOUSANDS? ***FOR FUCK'S SAKE!***

I believe that sadly, Crapman really is so evil and twisted that he doesn't care, even deep down, about the deaths that cameras cause, and that bullying motorists really is more important to him than not killing all those innocent people. And I believe that Spindrift is also fucked up enough to think the same, although not because he's evil, but just because he's a complete fruitcake (so it's hard to hate him to anywhere near the same degree as Crapman). But I have faith, however misguided, that the other trolls here aren't really quite that bad. SURELY there can't be that many people who really are so determined to kill so many just so that they can feel spitefully smug about motorists being made miserable. I don't know whether they manage to ease their consciences by kidding themselves that cameras don't *really* kill people, despite knowing in reality that they do (the way that some meat-eaters like to kid themselves that eating meat isn't *really* the same in effect as killing an animal themselves). Or maybe they persuade themselves that bullying motorists off the road will save more lives in the long run than the thousands who are currently being massacred by cameras. There must be all manner of similar tricks that these sad, pathetic, warped, motorist-haters are playing on themselves.

But what they really need to do is bite the bullet, stop deceiving themselves about just how many people are dying because of cameras, accept that however annoyed they get about motorists driving around (did someone say "busybodies"?), killing large numbers of people is not the answer, realise that supporting Crapman is akin to supporting Bin Laden, and preferably abandon their anti-motorist stance altogether. (The fact that *all* of the most vocal anti-motorist people are scheming liars, who NEVER tell it like it is and NEVER do what they do for the good of humanity, tells you all you need to know about the validity of their stance.)

PLEASE will you stop this ludicrous charade and admit that cameras are killing people. PLEASE will you find another way to bully motorists which doesn't involve murdering thousands of innocent road users. PLEASE will you have some compassion and some decency. You'd never dream of killing even one person normally, so why do you consider it OK to kill thousands when it comes to your anti-motorist campaign? How on EARTH do you manage to square that with your consciences? Stop the massacre. STOP IT, AND STOP IT NOW. An end to this callous killing, once and for all. Just as killing "in the name of God" is still killing, killing in the name of bullying motorists is still JUST AS UNACCEPTABLE as when those scumbags stab people. If you want to believe that you're anything other than the lowest of the low, and the most despicable dregs of society, it's TIME TO STOP SUPPORTING THE MURDER CAMERAS ONCE AND FOR ALL, and drop a Gatso from great height on that FUCKING BASTARD Crapman. That will at least mean that one death caused by cameras will have been a worthy one.