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On May 4, 1:21=A0am, Phil W Lee  wrote: > "Just zis Guy, you know?"  considered Sun, 03 > May 2009 22:01:34 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > > > >On Sun, 03 May 2009 15:48:59 -0500, Andy Leighton > > wrote: > > >>That bit isn't true. =A0I'm from rural Lincolnshire although currently > >>living just outside it now. =A0I don't have a car and never had one. > >>My first job was 9 miles from where I lived (in Lincs) - that is (and > >>was) a cycleable distance (OK not that pleasant when there was a fen > >>blow but still easily doable) - most people live within 12 miles of > >>their place of work, again a perfectly cycleable distance. > > >True enough, but that misses my original point: how many would live > >/more/ than 5 miles from work, say, if they had no car and no public > >transport? =A0It seems to me that people choose to live and work in > >places which are not easy to commute between without a car, and then > >say that a car is essential, as if the availability of the car was not > >a contributory cause of that. > > >Guy > > I think it may be even more significant when expressed the other way. > Many employers consider long distance commuting to be normal, and by > location and practice seem to go out of their way to make it difficult > to work for them if you prefer not to indulge their motor-centric > attitudes. > IMO the planning system has much to answer for.

Wanker Lee posts another load of *complete* shit which couldn't be more wrong if he tried.