Nuxx:D41512a5-9e91-4478-9898-b25cffc03da1@e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another Motorist-Hating Freak, But At Least He Admits It Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:07:42 -0800 (PST) References: <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c161d@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 41 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.165.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204045662 7528 127.0.0.1 (26 Feb 2008 17:07:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.165.120; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3270 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:641965

On Feb 26, 3:04 pm, spindrift  wrote: > On 26 Feb, 14:52, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > "I hate cars. If I ever get any power again, I'll ban the lot." > > Ken Livingstone, 1988 > > > And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no > > anti-motorist measures whatsoever. ROTFL. The bullshit that they > > have to come out with to maintain the lie. Is it really worth it? > > Could you source that quote please?

The Conservative Party, so obviously it can't possibly be true. Bloody Conservatives with their non-motorist-hating.

> I seem to recall it's a third-hand account of a conversation, Ken has > denied ever saying any such thing.

He slipped up, realised that he'd done so, and lied about having ever said it. He realised that rule number one of being a motorist-hater is to deny, deny, deny, because it's indefensible. And it comes to no surprise that even he uses the "I own a car so I can't have an anti- motorist agenda" line.

Can I just confirm what you think: do you believe that TfL have no wish whatsoever to discourage motorists by implementing anti-motorist measures on their roads? You don't need a list of measures which I consider anti-motorist (or rather which are anti-motorist), because I'm asking for *your* opinion. Do you believe that TfL have an anti- motorist agenda or not? Do you believe that there are any anti- motorist measures (i.e. things which have been put there primarily to make things harder for drivers) in London?

> Why, by the way, have you ignored the responses to your questions on > the two other threads you started??

I've posted plenty of times in both threads, and I've replied to you far more times than you deserve. Do you expect me to reply to every single person? If a troll posts nothing of substance and/or repeats something that I've already answered/discredited, they're going to be waiting a long time for a response.