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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news2.euro.net!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e335850$0$2496$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Mode share and journey times - DfT Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 02:03:06 +0100 References: <6j033717tu9p4omauh76lsqm6v6kgieenj@4ax.com>    <07idnbrc_PMeF6_TnZ2dnUVZ7sWdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk>       Lines: 42 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 490eabd7.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=:QTUR0n6S3aUG:6?LFGYHh0g@SS;SF6ngR9OH0:RnENdZ?2j:BGS9Yb`:ITG5aA:cg_dE:[^dFMHj X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 3288 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:848220

On 30/07/2011 01:32, Phil W Lee wrote: > "Mr. Benn"  considered Fri, 29 Jul 2011 > 16:45:13 +0100 the perfect time to write: > >> "Simon Mason"  wrote in message >> news:K6ydnTLHP_1_Wq_TnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... >>> >>> "Mr. Benn"  wrote in message >>> news:j0ugks$i4u$1@dont-email.me... >>> >>>> To try and answer your question, I hardly ever encounter horses, >>>> tractors, caravans, hikers, combine harvesters, pea pickers, pony and >>>> traps on my commute to and from work so they are not a problem for me. I >>>> frequently come across long queues of traffic with a cyclist at the head >>>> of the queue. >>> >>> So what you are saying is if the cyclist at the head of the queue was in >>> his car, instead of his bike, you would be at least one more car's length >>> further back in that queue? >>> >>> And because it was a car and not a bike "holding you up", you wouldn't >>> moan about it. >> >> Cars don't normally travel at 5 mph up a hill. > > No, not if they are in a queue that is moving slower. > Of course, it's only if the other traffic is human powered that you > find it a problem. > Or maybe it's just that you perceive them as more vulnerable and > expect to be able to bully your way past, and find it frustrating when > you can't. > Bullies are always cowards at heart, so it's hardly surprising that > you don't object when the other traffic is something like a tractor or > combine harvester.

And you think pretty much all motorists are bullies, don't you? Don't you? (Except for those who actually are, like deliberate lane-hoggers...no doubt you love them.)

What about those who spend time and (our) money coming up with measures which are specifically designed to make motoring more difficult? Aren't they bullies?