Nuxx:Baf68f95-872c-44f7-ba7d-804e45ea56bd@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Child Death In Redditch Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:43:29 -0700 (PDT) References:  <9190d52c-3502-4b70-8abc-71b73221c1c0@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Lines: 53 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.129.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217961809 26592 127.0.0.1 (5 Aug 2008 18:43:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.129.172; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3790 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:660959

On Aug 5, 10:53=A0am, spindrift  wrote: > On Aug 5, 6:13=A0am, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > > An interesting message from elsewhere. =A0A 10-year-old boy on his bike > > was killed on a heavily traffic calmed, bus-only road. =A0Hardly a > > surprise, then, that there has been no mention of it here on > > uk.rec.anti-motorist, since no motorist can be blamed, and no anti- > > motorist measures can be called for as a result of the tragedy. > > > Something tells me that there won't be the automatic, hysterical, > > "lock the driver up and throw away the key" reaction on this thread > > that there would have been had the bus driver been a car driver > > instead. =A0Deaths which are caused by politically correct forms of > > transport aren't as bad as deaths caused by cars/motorcycles in this > > crazy troll-world. > > > -- Original Message -- > > > Those who live in the West Midlands might have seen the Birmingham > > Mail where a ten year old boy was killed on his bike by a bus. > > > This happened 200m from my partners old house on a road where I've > > cycled myself many times with my 13 year old and her 6 year old. > > What isnt reported is that it is a BUS ONLY road. Redditch, being a > > new town, had these bus corridors running through the middle of its > > suburbs which have no access to cars. > > > Interestingly this road is heavily traffic calmed, with two pinch > > points and several central island type crossings where footpaths > > cross the road. Hardly necessary for a bus every 20 minutes! > > > However, the road is so narrow that these obstacles have the effect > > of removing all maneuvring space for bus drivers to avoid anyone who > > steps out. It was at one of the islands where the child, who wasnt > > doing anything wrong by all accounts, was hit by the bus and > > virtually decapitated. > > > Its possible there was a "tree shadow" effect which hid the child > > from the drivers view, but on the face of it this looks like a > > classic case of traffic calming being dangerous to cyclists.- Hide quot= ed text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Using the child's death to slag off cyclists is creepy and cowardly. > No details were posted about Ellis's death in the OP, the BBC link > shows that it is not at all clear what happened and way too soon to > attribute blame to anyone.

How did I "slag off cyclists"? You're urgently in need of help, and (prescribed) medication.