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On Feb 8, 6:36=A0pm, Clive George  wrote: > On 08/02/2011 15:40, Tony wrote: > > > There is no systematic hostility towards cyclists 'here'. > > Maybe not from most people

1. Don't be shy, say who you mean.

2. Please feel free to cite any post from me (especially on this group) which shows a hostility towards cyclists in general, rather than towards the small subset of cyclists who are militant car-haters with an intolerance of others' points of view.

Tony's comments are spot on. Jackson and co are almost certainly aware that the alleged hostility doesn't really exist, and are just pretending to think otherwise as an excuse to come down hard on those who post (or try to post) undesired opinions onto URCM. This whole "URCM has specific problems that other moderated newsgroups don't" nonsense (also peddled by Tony Raven among others) is just a ploy to counter difficult questions about why URCM "moderation" isn't fair like it is on other newsgroups.

Yes, maybe Jackson and co really do think the alleged hostility exists, and are being paranoid as a result, but I don't have much desire to give them the benefit of the doubt after people were so blatantly hoodwinked into voting for URCM when it was obviously never intended to be anything like what was stated in the "brochure". That was most definitely no accident.

People can think "Oh well he would say all that since he's just here to stir", or something equally enlightened, but that doesn't really affect the fact that I'm right, does it?