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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <15c73077-d3bb-4841-8f02-8937dfb4c176@z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: uk.rec.cycling basic stats Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 05:02:10 -0700 (PDT) References:  <785podF1kj6o5U1@mid.individual.net>  <1j0fb9t.ci5yki5sle9sN%alan@darkroom.+.com>     <29d7106350.mrc7offline@mrc7acorn1.path.cam.ac.uk>  <1j0hhib.159pkvf1gy6flgN%alan@darkroom.+.com>  Lines: 22 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243684931 14289 127.0.0.1 (30 May 2009 12:02:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2680 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:52081 uk.rec.cycling:4055

On May 29, 4:53=A0pm, Geoff Berrow  wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 15:31:25 +0100, a...@darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) wrote: > >A properly moderated group, with a well defined charter may be a step > >forward, but I doubt it will be a high usage group as URC used to be. > > None of them are. =A0uk.rec.walking doesn't have a troll problem and yet > has declined dramatically.

And *why* doesn't it have a "troll" problem? Because it has no controversial posters, like Chapman and Spindrift, who are almost universally despised and have a sick, "anything goes", "hidden" agenda against tens of millions of motorists.

Get rid of Chapman/Spindrift and all the problems disappear. They don't particularly care about cycling, they just use it as a front for their car-hating activities.

> So I think it is probably unfair to > attribute the decline to trolls and I feel that splitting the group > will only hasten the decline.

Sounds about right to me.