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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e1f3fa2$0$2486$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Big tough cyclist attacks girl in cycle rage incident Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:12:33 +0100 References:   <4e1eb385$0$2938$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> <02cc5a88-db76-422c-8738-3847d2c76f26@e7g2000vbj.googlegroups.com> Lines: 38 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <02cc5a88-db76-422c-8738-3847d2c76f26@e7g2000vbj.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 51447e6c.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=8PfQI\k8ZIZ>RMKFKlc5fW0g@SS;SF6nWR9OH0:RnENT:hoe0Z_FD?V`:ITG5aA:cWF`hd?QMRblZ X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2747 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:847523

On 14/07/2011 12:11, Squashme wrote: > On Jul 14, 10:14 am, Nuxx Bar  wrote: >> On 14/07/2011 09:52, Squashme wrote: >> >>> On Jul 14, 8:18 am, "Mrcheerful"  wrote: >>>> http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Cyclist-in-bizarr.... >> >>> You made a mistake. Your "girl" is a "woman, who was in her 20s." Did >>> you miss it? >>> Although, as you appear to have a more complete description of the >>> cyclist "big tough," you may have been a witness. Is that so? I think >>> that we should be told. >> >> FFS! You just *will not* condemn a cyclist will you? > > How do you KNOW that?

You've just avoided doing so when you could, and should, have. Do you condemn the cyclist in the article or not?

>> Can't you see >> that such an attitude is part of the overall problem? > > FFS! You just *will not* condemn a speeding motorist will you?

I'm happy to condemn any motorist who does anything wrong, and have done. However I do not accept that "speeding" in itself is dangerous, however much you and your ilk would like to believe that it is. No matter how much you emotively try to make "speeding motorist" equal "reckless motorist", it never will.

You don't see articles about motorists causing collisions through speeding, and there's a reason for that, albeit a reason that you clearly find unpalatable (why is that?)

> Can't you see that such an attitude is part of the overall problem?

ITYM "solution", not "problem".