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On 04/08/2011 20:31, Simon Mason wrote: > "Eric Favager stood at Scarisbrick Parish Council and gave a short > speech to members. > > He implored: “My wife was killed on this road. Something has to be > done about the speed limit on the road before we have another fatal > accident.”

Was the collision anything to do with "speed"? Have you tried to find out? Do you care? No, you just want to blame and punish drivers whenever you can. They "shouldn't" be on the road, should they?

Is the bereaved husband of a road crash victim the best and most level-headed person to make technical road safety decisions? Only when they say what you want them to. If a guy said "My wife was killed by a speed camera, so it should be removed" then you would immediately dismiss their words.

Every time you start one of these topics, you show that your real agenda is about discouraging car use and is nothing to do with proper road safety.