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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e1b4167$0$2535$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Now Oxford to get its own "Boris Bikes". Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:31:00 +0100 References:   Lines: 39 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 04a66ab2.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=1L93]KaZ5m?<\dXg9]Wc52nok4Z\ > Looks like a waste of money to me.

Agreed. Oxford is *far* too small for such a scheme to work. Better to spend the money relieving congestion for drivers, by creating roadspace, removing unnecessary traffic lights, providing better parking, etc. That way everyone benefits, because motorists aren't sitting there in jams with their engines running. (Of course, when "everyone benefits" from something, the loony car-haters would rather not have it at all...if it helps motorists then it has to go, no matter how much it also helps other people. But thankfully people who think in such a twisted, negative, deranged way are still few and far between, despite shouting as loudly as they do.)

Still, if they do go ahead with it then the police will be able to make pots of money by setting up shop at the traffic lights nearest each docking station and ticketing the many cyclists who arrogantly jump the reds. As well as the money made from the ticket itself, they can make sure they spend so long taking the cyclists' details that they don't get back to the docking station in time, and so have to pay more for that as well: a double whammy of cash being made from irresponsible, dangerous, selfish cyclists. I'm sure Simon Mason and co would be right behind such an idea...or are they only in favour of lawbreaking being turned into a money-making opportunity when it's motorists, and not cyclists, who are breaking the law?

(Has anyone else ever noticed how much Chapman dishonestly obfuscates and squirms when discussing how much cyclists jump red lights compared to motorists? The hard facts are that, as anyone can easily see, a far greater percentage of cyclists regularly jump reds than motorists. Chapman knows this, and yet because of his anti-car agenda, he desperately tries to *imply* that it's not the case without actually saying so.  Just like he desperately tries to *imply* that he didn't post as Lou Knee without actually saying so.  It's a disingenuous tactic that he employs so much that 1) no-one who is used to his posts could possibly be falling for it anymore and 2) it's entirely obvious that he's a sociopath, as no-one else could be so deceitful, so coolly and easily, so often.)