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On Sep 29, 9:00=A0am, judith  wrote: > On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:00:17 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" > >  wrote: > >On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:44:32 GMT, "Trevor A Panther" > > said in > >: > > >>Lets face it if you all stopped saying "don't feed the troll" =A0-- I w= ould > >>never see the w*nker =A0-- which makes you all as bad as him. Stop it!!= !!! > > >No, an obvious "don't feed the troll" reply will show up for > >posterity (hello, posterity!) and prevent the standard troll idiocy > >of claiming that some bullshit is unrefuted when in fact it is > >simply ignored. =A0You can filter on subject, that should do the > >trick. > > >Guy > > Good one - we cannot refute what the "troll" says - so we will say > that we are ignoring it - errrr - because "it is a troll" who has said > it.

Got it in one, as usual. They seem to have adopted all manner of "coping strategies" like the above, for when someone comes onto this newsgroup and proves them wrong (for the xxxxth time). They know they can't refute what the person is saying, so they have two options: admit that the person is right, or call the person a "troll" and hope that they won't have the audacity to come onto *their* newsgroup and post unwanted truths again.

Unfortunately, I will, and so will others, and we will always keep doing so until people here have the basic courtesy to stop pretending that they think we're talking rubbish and admit that we have a point. The issues that the trolls find so awkward are not going to go away just because they insult those who bring them up. They have to accept that any stance which relies on continued censorship and ignorance of the truth is untenable, and make amends accordingly. No amount of them shooting the messenger will change that one iota.

> You are not a full shilling Chapman.

That's what decades of non-stop motorist-hating can do to someone. It's not good for someone to campaign for something which they know to be irrational for so long.