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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.84.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsfeed.bit.nl!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!cyclone03.ams.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe01.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Wait like the rest of us Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:11:08 +0000 References:  <3qv1l45b5tinu86rqnlsd0etrldm7hbk6j@4ax.com> 	  	<55a4l.25545$i_6.5797@newsfe11.ams2>  	  	    Lines: 32 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe01.ams2 1230250292 82.21.204.127 (Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:11:32 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:11:32 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3230 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:681954

Phil W Lee wrote: > JNugent  considered Wed, 24 Dec 2008 > 10:35:36 +0000 the perfect time to write: > >> al Mossah wrote: >> >>> On 23 Dec, 22:40, _  wrote: >>> >>>> failing to recognise their own failings, promoting the idea of riding >>>> two abreast in the middle of a lane because "it doesn't allow faster >>>> traffic to pass that might cut in on you >>> Actually cyclists are allowed to ride 2 abreast; the Highway code >>> (section 66) states >>> "never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow >>> or busy roads and when riding round bends" >> As I am sure you will appreciate, that is not the same as sanctioning riding >> two abreast where it will cause avoidable delay to others. > > Except for the fact that it also specifies a passing clearance when > overtaking bicycles that is more than adequate for 2 cyclists to > share, if they choose to do so. > > So according to the highway code, if you find 2 abreast cyclists more > obstructive than single file ones, you must have been intending to > pass dangerously close anyway.

Bzzt, wrong answer. I work on 'clearance' as imagining the bike rider suddenly falling to the maximum distance to his right - i.e. about five feet from his wheel tracks if he fell such that his arm was stretched right out. If he has a second rider to his right, I have to add five feet to *him* instead, unless you're suggesting that I only give TWO cyclists the same amount of room that I would ONE?