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On 19/07/2011 09:12, Simon Mason wrote: > Fascinating insight into the life of a London cycle courier. > > "But don't talk to me about cabbies." Why not? He shakes his head. > "They're our nemesis, always cutting us up and screaming out their > windows," he spits. "Them and bus drivers are the worst - they just wish > we weren't on the road. It seems personal." > > http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/cycle-messengers-a-really-tyring-way-to-work-2315850.html

There we have it: a real cyclist who actually cares about cyclist safety says that cabbies and bus drivers are the worst towards cyclists. So there's a good chance that those who claim that private motorists are the worst are saying so for ideological reasons, rather than because they really think they are.

Those who put anti-motorist sentiment before safety are a very big part of the overall problem.