Nuxx:4327982a-34ee-4600-b99e-6e2c53334dbd@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4327982a-34ee-4600-b99e-6e2c53334dbd@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: nuxx bar - action commenced Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 03:20:19 -0700 (PDT) References:  Lines: 96 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.146.155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1223029219 1919 127.0.0.1 (3 Oct 2008 10:20:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.146.155; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.2) Gecko/2008091620 Firefox/3.0.2,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 6493 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:670157

Yawn. I've never even heard of "motzarella", but you keep on it, Sherlock.

As for libel, well, Chapman and others are past masters at that. Perhaps I should start complaining about them. In fact, if anything comes of this, then I will. Chapman has previously called me a paedophile and goodness knows what else. I'm sure none of you would want your motorist-hating idol (among many others) to get caught up in this. His ISP's already got the hump with him for using other people's email addresses, after all.

Besides, "_" admitted the things that he was accused of, and furthermore, "_" could refer to anyone; it's not exactly unambiguous. Still, if lying motorist-hating idiots want to waste their time and money on an utterly trivial matter, that's fine; it'll give them less time to campaign against those dreadful cars.

Anyone who has obtained my real identity (if indeed they have) will have done so illegally, so if they want to escalate the matter, they may well find themselves getting a *lot* more than they bargained for, along with the person who released the information to them. (Especially since I have the timestamp and the IP of whoever it was who logged in to my email account last week, which matches up with the IP of a poster here...not such a smart move, that.)

Oh, and I'm changing ISPs anyway. Oh, and my wireless connection may not be secure, so who knows who could have been using it. Bummer.

Now I suggest that you and the other whingers grow up, realise that teacher isn't there to tell tales to anymore, accept that anyone who was the subject of one or more of the remarks in question did something to deserve it (especially in the case of "_"), grow a thick skin, and learn to accept criticism, especially when it's entirely warranted. If you complain or take legal action, then so will I, against you and several other people, and it'll be a lot of hassle for everyone, with very little to gain. I'm leaving here anyway (IF no further action is taken), not because of these silly threats, but because I've finally realised (belatedly, I know) that it's impossible to have a reasoned debate with any of you, as you all know that I'm right, but you're never going to admit it, as you have an illogical problem with motorists that's never going to go away (since it cannot be dispelled with logic). So you've all got what you originally wanted, and if you really find me such a pain, then you'll want to forget all about me, and you won't be able to do that if you're both suing me and getting sued by me.

It's better for all of us if everyone cools down, learns from this and puts it behind them. Think about it over the weekend and you'll realise that there's no benefit to you in continuing down this path, and only someone who was absolutely determined to cut off their nose to spite their face would do so. There are some here who are nearly that determined, but not quite, otherwise each of them would have killed themselves just to make others suffer by now.

And don't worry, I've learnt my lesson: I shouldn't have come here, as some people simply *cannot* be reasoned with. The people on this group have lessened my faith in human nature: how anyone could be so blase about so many road users dying, and how anyone could get so much pleasure out of giving motorists a hard time, is simply beyond me. Nevertheless, I've seen it with my own eyes, and I now know that I can't trust anyone, however outwardly respectable they may seem, at least until I've ascertained that they're not as callous and hateful as the people here.

Just as well there's no God, otherwise you'd all be condemned to Hell. As it is, I hope very much that I will never have to have anything to do with any of you again. Get stuffed, the lot of you.

tweet.bir...@gmail.com wrote: > Some email has been exchanged outside the newsgroup. > > The motzarella.org account used by nuxx bar has, according to their > abuse department, been terminated. > > The ISP used for posting most of nuxx bar's messages has also been > notified of several instances of forged headers from the account which > is a violation of their terms of service. The IP addresses and > timestamps are stated to be sufficient to identify the account. Their > abuse department is working on this. > > Legal opinion has been obtained. Some statements made by nuxx bar > constitute libel and are considered actionable. The ISP used by nuxx > bar has been contacted and the process for discovery of subscriber > details, including name and address, has been commenced. The > solicitor's opinion is that the ISP will release the details and that > a civil case is likely to succeed. A criminal prosecution is unlikely > but the current trend is for significant damages to be awarded in > cases of online harassment. Separately the ISP may take legal action. > > A member of this newsgroup has obtained what he believes to be the > real-world identity of nuxx bar. This will be compared with the > details from the ISP when they arrive. > > The solicitor recommends that all members of this group cease > responding to the individual known as nuxx bar and do not respond to > any email which is or is suspected to be from him.