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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!cyclone03.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe11.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclists going through red traffic lights Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:43:50 +0000 References: <72h0pkFpshmdU1@mid.individual.net>  	<4t9xl.197563$OT2.88645@newsfe29.ams2> <5c0181f9-81c3-4d95-9940-f1cc98eba31c@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Lines: 34 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5c0181f9-81c3-4d95-9940-f1cc98eba31c@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.12.82.202 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe11.ams2 1237661064 86.12.82.202 (Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:44:24 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:44:24 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 2996 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690534

squashme@gmail.com wrote: > On 21 Mar, 17:27, _  wrote: >> aaa wrote: >>> Iain wrote: >>>> I have just walked back from the shops. >>>> As I was going, I came to the traffic lights just by Willesden bus >>>> garage. Two sets were red. From each of these sets, a cyclist went >>>> straight through them. >>>> As I was returning, past the same set of lights, I saw I cyclist >>>> waiting for the lights to turn green. I felt like giving him one of >>>> my oranges! >>>> Can the cycling community not do something to dissuade these people >>>> from jumping the lights? It certainly causes frustration from >>>> drivers who have to so frequently watch this deliberate flaunting of >>>> the law, and continues to give cyclists such a poor name - certainly >>>> within London. >>>> Iain >>> Just shows that red lights are often unneccessary. You should >>> concentrate your efforts in getting these red lights removed. Also >>> passing a law to allow a left turn filter through red lights (when >>> safe) would help. >> You're suggesting that the fact that cyclists jump the lights is in >> itself evidence that they shouldn't exist? Squash? Is that you, son? > > Not me. It's the same kind of self-centred bollocks as motorists come > up with about speed limits. I do not like RLJers and do not do it > myself. We all need rules, especially on the roads, to protect the > weak from the strong, and to protect us all from our own stupidity and > selfishmess. Whether or not we have a right to risk our own lives, we > certainly have no right to put other people at risk just for our own > convenience or perceived advantage.

C'mon, fess up. That post is a forgery, right? Its FAR too sensible to be from squash!