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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e2d0d56-21d5-40d5-a610-3016c048a5e7@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Conservative Way Forward Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 39 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.248.73 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1205841551 7177 127.0.0.1 (18 Mar 2008 11:59:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.248.73; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3161 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:644641

From their document, "Stop the War Against Drivers" (http:// www.conwayfor.org/policypapers/transport_policy_paper.pdf):

"The freedom provided by the motor vehicle is not universally applauded, however: there are those who resent the loss of state control over individual choice that the car represents. Such people rarely admit their prejudices openly; instead, they make false or exaggerated claims about the adverse effects of road transport in order to justify calls for higher taxation or restrictions on mobility."

Well I never. So the war on drivers and those sad little motorist- haters really do exist, and they're not just a figment of my imagination. Yet apparently *not one* of those sad little motorist- haters has found their way onto urc, the hotbed of pro-motorist restricting, anti-Safe Speed and pro-speed camera sentiment (in other words, the hotbed of extremists who "make false or exaggerated claims about the adverse effects of road transport in order to justify calls for higher taxation or restrictions on mobility")! Fancy that!

Well, all I can say is that Chapman, Spindrift and all their boring generic followers really should hook up with the sad little motorist- haters, as it's extraordinary just how much you appear to have in common. In fact, it's a bit too extraordinary. It's much more likely that (perish the thought) Chapman, Spindrift and the other trolls are lying about not being sad little motorist-haters. After all, "Such people rarely admit their prejudices openly".

Who's going to be the first to break ranks and admit that they hate cars? Or are you all too scared of Chapman and Spindrift? What is it that you think they're going to do, exactly? Or is it just that you know you won't be able to defend your motorist-hating? In which case, why not just STOP HATING CARS?

One or the other please. Either admit that you hate motorists, or stop hating them. It's time for some honesty please.

(Cue lots of bullshit about how Conservative Way Forward must be lying. Yawn.)