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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e3484e6$0$2497$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: OT: Man Killed on Motorway Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:25:41 +0100 Lines: 47 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 6907f465.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=@EI7=OBfikP0CCJe\<Rkl]0g@SS;SF6nWR9OH0:RnENTEW1HY7?bL^[`:ITG5aA:cWLZM8E1Vc4AX-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2962 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:848259

I guess if your name's Phil Lee, Doug Bollen or Guy Chapman, then this death was still the fault of the drivers, despite the fact that the pedestrian was illegally on the motorway. Because, of course, anyone who selfishly chooses to speed around in a ton of metal is by definition 100% responsible for any collision with a vulnerable road user, right? The driver shouldn't be driving, and when they do, they put everyone around them in unnecessary danger, so it's always their fault, end of, yes?

Doug will at least admit to thinking that; Phil Lee may; Chapman, unsurprisingly, won't.

In any case, this collision is conclusive proof that the whole motorway network should have its speed limit immediately reduced to 50mph, and any resistance should be met with intolerable, dishonest, self-righteous screeching a la Blackfriars Bridge. Then, a few years after, it can be reduced to 40mph using the same tactics, then 30mph, then....

(You know, the same way that the limits on many other roads (particularly in places like London) are being constantly ratcheted down...if the ridiculous limits that we have now had been proposed all as one reduction 20 years ago, then they would have been quite rightly rejected as lunacy, hence the fact that it's all been done gradually instead by the scheming, calculating car-haters.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-14352817

Man killed on M20 near Maidstone in Kent

A pedestrian has died after being hit by several vehicles on the M20 near Maidstone in Kent, police said.

The 25-year-old local man was killed near junction 8 of the London-bound carriageway at about 00:30 BST on Saturday.

The police's serious crash investigation unit was sent and part of the motorway was closed.

The force said the coastbound M20 was reopened at 08:15 BST and the London-bound carriageway opened at midday.

A spokesman added: "A 25-year-old man from the Maidstone area was pronounced dead at the scene.

"His next of kin have been informed.

"Any witnesses to the incident are asked to call the serious collision investigation unit."