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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <8d66b499-64f8-457b-89f7-1897f82abdd7@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Brownsville man arrested after allegedly plowing car through racers. Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:32:15 -0700 (PDT) References:   <23300bef-e0df-4483-b099-b7f1dcf15ebb@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Lines: 73 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.168.199 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1214242336 7996 127.0.0.1 (23 Jun 2008 17:32:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.168.199; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 5168 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:654260

On Jun 3, 11:12=A0am, spindrift  wrote: > On Jun 3, 1:59=A0am, Martin  wrote: > > > Peter Pie Eater wrote: > > > Authorities told Mexican media that Campos admitted to using cocaine > > > prior to the accident. > > > > Original Story:http://www.kgbt4.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=3D141620 > > > Horrific Image:http://shackpics.com/files/crash_mzdiq89789u6zq4jlrx7.= jpg > > > A picture says a thousand words. That is truly horrific. > > Paul Smith's acolytes wank themselves into a frenzy over pictures of > young people being killed and injured:

AFAIK Paul has never had any acolytes, but why would Safe Speed supporters (if that's who you mean) be trying to reduce road deaths if they took such delight in them?

You, on the other hand, are so sick, and so obviously happy for road deaths to continue unabated, that I wouldn't be at all surprised if you literally did wank over pictures of young people being killed and injured (or healthy young people if that's all you've got).

It's perfectly simple. Road deaths stopped falling as they had been when since speed cameras were introduced. The most plausible explanation by far for that is that speed camera policy is to blame. Only those who supported cameras for reasons other than safety would even attempt to deny that. This "Vehicle safety, engineering improvements and all the other things which had been improving year on year for several decades suddenly plateaued all at the same time" rubbish is just desperate floundering by those who want to see cameras stay because they want motorists to be punished for driving. It's quite obvious that these people have started off with the conclusion that cameras have worked, and gone through the most ridiculous contortions to get to that conclusion. But both the trolls and their opponents can see that it's the wrong conclusion. Anyone who believes that it is still possible to improve the road death figures has to agree that current policy has been an ABJECT FAILURE.

> Moderation on that forum is delightfully quaint, point out that Smith > was hopelessly out of his depth and criminally stupid and you get > deleted.

No Spindrift, you simply get banned on sight because you quite rightly have a reputation as a foul, lying, deranged loony who would rather persecute motorists than save lives. You hate motorists in the same manner that Bin Laden hates the west (i.e. you're prepared to kill huge numbers of people to get what you want), and you're about as easy to reason with.

Although Bin Laden does at least admit that he hates the west. On top of everything else, you're an utter coward for continually and pathetically denying that you've got it in for motorists. Because that's why you really like speed cameras, isn't it? Anyone who didn't hate motorists would give due consideration to the idea that cameras were costing rather than saving lives. But not you, because you don't care whether they save lives, as long as they're making things difficult for motorists. It's so obvious. You're like an open book. Why not make yourself look slightly less demented by admitting it?

> Meanwhile comments like the above are left alone. Says it all really.

What have motorists ever actually done to you? I mean actual things, not just products of your fevered, warped imagination. It's a mystery to me how you trolls can have such disdain for people who are just trying to get around. Wouldn't it be better to reserve your hate for actual blights on society, e.g. vandals? Why pick on the humble driver? The worst thing is not that Spindrift exists (there will always be the odd loony), but the fact that he has supporters, who of course just feed his delusions and stop him getting well. It's a shame.