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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <99325f3b-933c-4dff-a54b-b83aa43dacad@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Speed Limits: How Low Is Too Low? Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:53:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <43fcb0d5-3e7e-4ae6-b073-ca62ea02d09f@s39g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Lines: 53 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.204.241 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1208116440 18401 127.0.0.1 (13 Apr 2008 19:54:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.204.241; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080311 Firefox/2.0.0.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4424 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:647025

Just to add that Crapman can reply if he wants but I doubt I'll read it. I've rarely if ever encountered anyone so utterly malicious and odious. What causes him to be *such* a motorist-hater? Is he a communist or anti-capitalist? He'd have to be pretty hardline. Is he a control freak who doesn't believe that anyone (except him) should be put in charge of tons of metal? (It would be a control thing, rather than a safety thing, otherwise he wouldn't campaign for the killer cameras in order to achieve his aims. Thereagain the whole thing's so illogical anyway, and his mind must have become so warped by now, that anything's possible I suppose.)

It does seem extraordinary that, whatever the "reason", anyone could get *so* worked up about people using a symbol of freedom and progress like the car. I can understand the hypocrisy, fuckwitted though it is (after all, "environmentalists" who tell people not to fly are always jetting off to the likes of Bali...wankers), but I just can't understand what makes him so utterly determined to hate cars that he would still support cameras, when they (as he well knows) are costing so many thousands of lives. Even for a callous monster like him, it seems incredibly extreme, yet his posts leave no room for doubt that he really does hate motorists that much. One day maybe he'll tell us what it's all about, not that we'll really be able to believe it, what with him being serial liar and everything. ;-)

Whatever the explanation, there's no doubt whatsoever that, in terms of the number of lives which he is campaigning to end, he is an almost unimaginably dangerous individual, and him and his ilk should really be locked up. In terms of the number of lives which they seek to take, terrorists get a large amount of publicity (absolute bastards though they are); conversely, in terms of the number of lives which very worst) get none. Once cameras start to go (and we all know it's going to happen, probably fairly soon), I'm actually a bit afraid of what he'll do, because if he's shown such a disregard for life up to now that it could really be anything.  "Cameras have failed to get motorists off the road?  Better start loosening some wheels, that'll stop the bastards...."
 * they* seek to take, Crapman and his ilk (although he's one of the

It's frightening. Probably best to leave him to his own devices here on uk.rec.trollpit; here, he and his fellow trolls will laughably persuade themselves that cameras are staying for as long as possible, so at least "Plan B" will be delayed if nothing else. Perhaps the "fake" policeman on Safe Speed (who has proved to me that he's real, not that I doubted it, but I'm sure that won't stop the ridiculous allegations) will be able to pre-empt any "direct" anti-motorist action that Chapman plans to perpetrate or organise; we've got his name and more after all.

Dreadful. You know it, I know it. It's impossible to convey with text alone just what a terrible person Guy Chapman is. (And he's got a stupid name as well. Guy = chap = man, so surely he could equally be called Guy Guyguy, Chap Chapchap or Man Manman?  Oh that that were the only idiotic thing about him.)