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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <51b2414f-5fb1-4e9b-91d9-e06f9b9a1e50@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Question For Everyone Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:05:42 -0700 (PDT) References:  <86a7cb49-47c5-4ac6-8719-6bf2dd2de16c@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <024e9e86-9f91-4cc3-bfaf-ece6f93420cb@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 21 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.150.187 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1208365543 29888 127.0.0.1 (16 Apr 2008 17:05:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.150.187; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9b5) Gecko/2008032620 Firefox/3.0b5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2535 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:647566

You lot are so pathetic. None of you will admit that all regular drivers speed, not because you don't think it's true, but because you're rightly scared that it will make you look stupid. Absolutely spineless.

There may be a few absolute menaces who only ever drive just down the road and back and never go about 15mph, but they're not what I'd call regular drivers. Anyone who drives regularly, and regularly goes more than a few miles from their house, and is in possession of their marbles, speeds. You know it, I know it.

If you take a stance, like "Speeding is always bad", and then you find yourself having to say ridiculous things as a result of that stance, like "Not all regular drivers speed", then it's very likely that the original stance is fundamentally flawed. This instance is no exception. Just admit that cameras are a load of shit and speeding can be perfectly safe, and you'll no longer be forced to make the ludicrous assertions. Surely it's worth it, even if you do have to swallow your pride when you say "I was wrong". I actually think it would take courage to admit that you were wrong. It's never too late. Please consider it.