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Going by what Spindrift has posted over the years, and the style that he has used, do you honestly believe that his agenda is a noble, selfless, transparent one (e.g. saving lives), rather than an extremist, selfish, hidden one (e.g. an illogical hatred of motorists)? Even if you believe that speed cameras save lives, have you never suspected that Spindrift is not the wonderful, caring individual that he would like people to think he was? Does Spindrift really strike you as someone who would devote so much time and effort to saving the lives of random road users? Do you think it's a good thing that Spindrift is one of the most (in)famous camera advocates on the Internet?

If you agree with me that he has a hidden agenda, what do you think it is? Are there any possibilities other than the most obvious (that he hates motorists)? Does he, like Chapman, have links with SCPs or similar? Surely if his motive is anything other than saving lives, Spindrift's posts are just as damaging to those who genuinely believe that cameras save lives as they are to anyone else.

(In fact, they don't really damage the anti-camera movement at all, we just find him comical. For a while there was even a school of thought (in some quarters) that Spindrift was actually Paul Smith, such was the extent to which Spindrift blackened the reputation of camera supporters.)

Does anyone *really* think that Spindrift is a good camera advocate, who has a purely selfless, philanthropic agenda? I very much hope not.