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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!f30g2000vbf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <942685d7-db5a-4c12-9b68-e82e16dd1841@f30g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: What is "Primary Position"? Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:12:06 -0700 (PDT) References:       Lines: 15 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245615127 3105 127.0.0.1 (21 Jun 2009 20:12:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f30g2000vbf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2191 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:711029

On Jun 21, 12:54=A0pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > > If you ride a bike in London and you come to a set of > traffic lights where the motor traffic is stationary in all directions > (or a set of pedestrian lights at red with not a pedestrian in sight) > and there is no apparent risk to you from going through the light, > then it's not a surprise that people do just that.

Right. So anti-motorist measures, such as traffic lights which are set to impede drivers unnecessarily, adversely impact cyclists as well. Ergo, your unconditional support of such measures proves that you are not pro-cyclist, you are just anti-motorist. You couldn't care less if a measure pisses off cyclists, as long as it pisses off motorists.