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On Aug 6, 2:19=A0pm, Martin  wrote: > Squashme wrote: > > On 6 Aug, 13:55, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 11:23 am, judith  wrote: > > >>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:13:32 +0100, "Brian Robertson" > >>>  wrote: > >>> > >>>> We don't hate cars. We hate you. > >>>> Brian. > >>> What a prat =A0- leaves in 120 odd lines to sum up his intellect in t= wo > >>> sentences. > >> I guess that if they didn't do that kind of thing, people like him > >> wouldn't be trolls. =A0There's simply no reasoning with them. =A0I cou= ld > >> come on here and post irrefutable proof that cameras cost lives, and > >> the trolls would simply reply with generalised abuse. > > > Please post the irrefutable proof. > > Like the time he posted "proof" that cameras increase the amount of > rear-end collisions, which came from a study (which he did not > reference), that showed that cameras reduce accidents, injuries and death= s.

You're getting me muddled up with someone else, although I'm sure they were right, and that you and your troll-friends condoned the study's ignoring of RTTM and/or similar FRAUD, like you've universally condoned DfT's ignoring of RTTM in this very thread. Time and time again, when a pro-camera quote or report commits a FRAUD like ignoring of RTTM, you trolls completely and knowingly accept it, which shows how much you really care about whether cameras are saving lives.

> Or what about his promised list of anti-motorist measures?

If you admit that you know what they are already, and you're just trying to make me jump through hoops, I'll be a lot more likely to post the list. Are you honest enough to admit that?