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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!cyclone03.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe21.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID: <2idxl.76846$6t7.65462@newsfe21.ams2> From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport Subject: Re: The motoring lobby Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:49:14 +0000 References:  <0de6c352-9693-429f-8b3f-d258b97aac90@c11g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>  <7b3a7c23-1a0f-4191-96d9-92309f3ba8b4@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <1Bcxl.142038$dm3.88355@newsfe27.ams2> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1Bcxl.142038$dm3.88355@newsfe27.ams2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.12.82.202 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe21.ams2 1237672190 86.12.82.202 (Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:49:50 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:49:50 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3612 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690582

Brian Robertson wrote: > My attitude, when I am not laughing at you asholes, is simply that the law > is the law and if you break it, you pay the price. Unless you can come up > with a better system, and you can't (Just like you can't come up with any > proof that speed cameras cost lives), that's the way the system works. > > I drive for a living, many thousands of miles a year and regularly have the > safety of hundreds of people in my hands every day, other road users as well > as my passengers. I try to drive to the same standards as I expect of > everyone else and I treat every failure to meet those standards as a lesson > to learn from. > I wonder how many of those people would place themselves in your care if they knew you'd driven a train while pissed? Or if they knew you'd done it not once but on many occasions, and didn't even have the courtesy to be embarrassed about it?

> I don't drive a car because we have a company car in the household, which I > am not insured to drive. I could easilly afford to run a car myself and, > indeed, I could use public transport, just yards from my door, to take my to > and from work 24/7/364. I have no wish to though because what I really do > detest isn't motorists. It's getting into one of those little tin prisons > myself. I hate cars and everything about them. > Funny, they must pay these bus drivers more than I thought. Especially since the Poles wont do it anymore and would rather go home than drive a public bus?

> And, just in case you are wondering, regular random drugs and alcohol > testing are a part of my job and have been for many years. > > Oh and, yes, I am a socialist. A more rabid red you will never meet. Except > you would never meet me, because your balloon knot would twitch too much ;-) > Hang on while I check my pulse. Yep, you're right, I'm terrified. How observant of you. Tell us though - these random alcohol tests.... do the OTHER drivers have them too, or just the ones that the management know have a history of attempting to drive a train while pissed?

Actually, dont bother. We're giving you far too much attention - just go back to random wittering that you know only a fraction of the posters here even see, let alone take any interest in :)