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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder1.news.weretis.net!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: A few facts. Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:21:13 -0800 (PST) References: <573f18a3-6a62-42d7-83d8-19b16ea68d9a@m2g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <6ujh8oFfojv0U3@mid.individual.net> Lines: 41 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.151.152.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1233429673 32111 127.0.0.1 (31 Jan 2009 19:21:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.151.152.80; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3467 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:684448

On Jan 31, 5:49=A0pm, Conor  wrote: > In article <573f18a3-6a62-42d7-83d8- > 19b16ea68...@m2g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...> This should sett= le it once and for all. Also cars kill and injure more > > people than any other type of road vehicle. > > > CTC have posted stats that show motorists (as we all know) causing > > more accidents and deaths than cyclists to pedestrians:- > > Considering there's 30,000,000 registered cars in the UK and nearly all > adults have licences, I would have expected nothing different. > > Now would you like to actually post some worthwhile figures which show > the number of these events as a percentage of road user type and also > as a percentage of the mileage done per annum of that road user type? > > That would be far more meaningful as it would give you a per head risk > assessment.

So it won't happen. With Duhg, it's not a case of "How can I make an honest assessment of what causes road deaths?", it's "What excuse can I find to have a go at motorists (preferably by exaggerating, distorting and deceiving as much as possible so as to make cars appear far more dangerous than they actually are)?"

I wonder why Duhg *really* hates cars so much. Is he just another one of those tedious closet socialists who hijack genuine causes such as safety, the environment and cycling in an effort to force socialism onto everyone? If so, he is at least more honest than most of his kind in that he admits to hating motorists (unlike the despised Chapman, among others, who make it incredibly obvious that they hate motorists while denying it all the same). But it's still unforgivable to play dirty by pretending to care about safety/the environment/ cycling instead of just saying "Socialism is great and this is why we should adopt it".

It seems to be a common theme among socialists these days that they're too ashamed of their cause and/or too sure that they won't be able to win the argument to admit that they're socialists at all. It's high time they adopted a cause which they're actually prepared to admit to supporting.