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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news2.euro.net!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e3924cd$0$2526$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Taking the lane in London Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:36:58 +0100 References:     Lines: 44 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: c01f4032.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=H_U6Fmkl[LQnS@\_F@iSjUnok4Z\_4KE=9lfiYEn On Aug 1, 9:27 pm, Abo  wrote: >>> >>     "A bicycle is a vehicle on the road and a person riding it has the >> right to act like any other person on the road.We all hear of cases >> where someone gets too close to the left and there are very unfortunate >> consequences if a lorry driver doesn't see them.'Some motorists think it >> is a divine right to be moving at whatever speed they want and a cyclist >> is holding them up. I'm afraid it is tough if a cyclist holds them up. >> In most urban areas traffic moves slowly so a cyclist doesn't hold up >> traffic."' >> >> That's from the IAM. You know; advanced motoring? I guess from your >> comment you motoring is pretty far from advanced... > > And of course, as seen in the recent Bexley case, any driver who takes > out his aggression on a cyclist taking the lane can be filmed and > brought to justice. These cameras will become more and more common and > will cut down on aggressive driving antics. A good thing for *every* > road user, not just cyclists.

Except when (as extensively discussed) a psycholist goes round deliberately provoking drivers just so they can film their (understandable) reactions. You know, the incidents where the footage immediately before the driver's reaction is mysteriously "missing".

The solution to this growing problem, presumably, is for drivers to also film everything. I'd just love it if some psycholist whinged to the police about being "threatened", and then it turned out that the driver had (unbeknown to the psycholist) also been filming the confrontation, and had captured the psycholist hitting the driver's girlfriend before being so aggressively and viciously "threatened".

The psycholist would hopefully do time and that would send out a message to all other psycholists that attempting to provoke drivers simply because you don't think they should be driving, and then attempting to enlist the police's limited resources in your petty crusade against motorists, is absolutely not on.

Fuckwits who go round antagonising drivers just because they're drivers give all cyclists a seriously bad name, as do those who defend such fuckwits and pretend that they can do no wrong simply because they're cyclists/psycholists. Anyone who wants to be accepted as a legitimate road user has to lead by example and accept all other road users themselves.