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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <030c17c6-eb46-4aca-b2bb-cdf7ff4b01be@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Sanity from Ireland Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:32:29 -0700 (PDT) References:  <44986d0f-c3a5-4c78-a9c0-7acf749cf0ee@v39g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>    Lines: 52 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1237440749 22582 127.0.0.1 (19 Mar 2009 05:32:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.147; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 Firefox/3.0.7 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3528 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690035

On Mar 18, 4:52=A0pm, "Simon Mason"  wrote: > "Nuxx Bar"  wrote in message > > news:fbee302b-fe4d-4cde-9160-3613589903fc@j35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 15, 7:00 pm, "Simon Mason"  > wrote: > > > > > "Nuxx Bar"  wrote in message > > >news:44986d0f-c3a5-4c78-a9c0-7acf749cf0ee@v39g2000yqm.googlegroups.com..= . > > On Mar 15, 5:42 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > > > > Not a novel view, of course; I think most of us are aware that > > > promotion of helmets and promotion of cycling go together like fish > > > and bicycle. > > >Damn straight. Because cycling is about anarchism, isn't it? > > >And cyclists shouldn't have to follow any restrictions or rules, howev= er > > >sensible, simply because they're morally superior to other road > > >users. > > > Driving at speeds exceeding the local limit is breaking the law. > > > Riding a bicycle with no helmet is not breaking the law. > > > Simple. > > Apparently so. =A0Tell me, what would you be more upset by? =A0One of you= r > closest friends smoking the occasional joint, or that same friend > cheating on his wife? > > My point being that "the law" is not the only consideration. > > Neither - what they do in their private life is of no concern of mine.

Right. So you would seem to think that "the law" shouldn't be dictating whether people use cannabis in private, right? In other words, "the law" isn't the perfect arbiter of what's OK and what's not that you like to imply. It's just a man-made set of rules which can and has frequently been shown to be lacking. Ergo, saying that one thing's against the law and one isn't and therefore that's "simple" and the end of the argument is, I would suggest, incorrect and not particularly helpful.

Still, that's not as ludicrous as your assertion that speeding is the same as shoplifting. Do you still stand by that assertion, or are you now prepared to admit that it's an absurd thing to say?