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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e345bc7$0$2499$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Bexley driver "'severely embarrassed' after attack. Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:30:15 +0100 References:   <998bcgFch9U1@mid.individual.net>  <998dbhFn9cU5@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 48 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 561070b4.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=30V7M;b1U6N49nW[gEdniF0g@SS;SF6nGR9OH0:RnENDXWM\AiRCGG@`:ITG5aA:cGPNb=^7D_87N X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 3282 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:848251

On 26/07/2011 19:47, Squashme wrote: > On Jul 26, 6:54 pm, JNugent  wrote: >> On 26/07/2011 18:38, Squashme wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 26, 6:21 pm, JNugent wrote: >>>> On 26/07/2011 10:32, Squashme wrote: >> >>>>> "Simon Mason" wrote: >>>>>> QUOTE: >>>>>> "He is understandably remorseful and ashamed by his actions. His state of >>>>>> mind was such that he lost his temper. He is a family man and offered to pay >>>>>> compensation to the victim. "He was severely embarrassed when the footage >>>>>> was posted on to YouTube where it has been viewed over 100,000 times." >>>>>> Mr Harris added that since the incident Nicholls had been harassed and >>>>>> people had left 'vicious messages' on his company website. >>>>>> District judge Roger Ede summed up the case: "Cyclists are very vulnerable >>>>>> and they feel exposed and feel threatened when a car comes too close to >>>>>> them. >>>>>> "Car drivers need to respect cyclists and understand that." >> >>>> Why do they need to respect cyclists more than any other class of road-user? >> >>> Where does he say "more than any other class of road user?" >> >> OK, I'll play. >> >> Why do they need to respect cyclists? > > Because cyclists respect them.

Chapman), and all too often, they claim to speak for all drivers. Some drivers therefore are left with the impression that all (or most) cyclists have no respect for them, and therefore they're not particularly eager to give respect back to cyclists.
 * Some* cyclists respect drivers. Others, emphatically, do not (e.g.

The solution, as ever, is for ordinary, reasonable cyclists to speak up, make it clear that they do in fact respect motorists, and condemn those who hate cars and only support things like speed cameras for that reason despite their complete failure as a safety intervention.