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On Jul 18, 11:46=A0am, spindrift  wrote: > On Jul 18, 11:44=A0am, "Adam Lea"  wrote: > > > > > Simon Brooke wrote: > > > > Yes, but the solution to that is to get those drivers who are highly > > > dangerous, off the road permanently, not to but bicycles on the > > > pavement. Bicycles are not safe on the pavement, and the solution is > > > not to make pavements more dangerous, it's to make the roads safer. S= o > > > we should take driving licences away much more frequently. We should > > > take them away for a couple of months for things we currently award > > > small fines or points for; and we should take them away permanently > > > for any accident involving serious injury or death. > > > > This is not 'anti-car' or 'anti-driver'. That's like saying jailing > > > child-molesters is 'anti-freedom'. Good drivers would have nothing to > > > worry about. And bad drivers would get a lot better, very quickly. > > > Much as I agree with what you say how do you deal with those drivers wh= o > > would continue driving regardless of losing their licenses? At present = it is > > not really that difficult to do (how often does anyone check that you a= re > > licensed?). In my estimation it is the cocky, arrogant, aggressive driv= ers > > that a) are most likely to be dangerous and b) most likely to rebel aga= inst > > authority if you try imposing restrictions. > > Cocky. > > Arrogant. > > Aggressive.

Deranged.

Motorist-hater.

Spindrift.