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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: I saw Critical Mass Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:58:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <047590b2-adba-4123-ae27-6d81e5f0ad36@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <488B57C3.40CEB5DB@comcast.net>   Lines: 28 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.145.93 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217627937 17676 127.0.0.1 (1 Aug 2008 21:58:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.145.93; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2783 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:660269

On Jul 27, 3:03=A0am, Tim McNamara  wrote: > Bill Sornson  writes: > > On Jul 26, 9:58=A0am, "Scott M. Kozel"  wrote: > > >> "The revolution will not be televised" > > >http://www.cbs8.com/flv/video_pop_hd3.php?startID=3D135672&cat=3Dundefin= ed > > CM is sure a bunch o' twits. =A0They, like too many others, have > confused being anti-car with being pro-bike. =A0They are not the same.

Quite right. "too many others" includes the majority of the most prolific posters on uk.rec.cycling, who claim to be pro-bike because they're too cowardly to admit to being anti-car. They implicitly support the likes of Critical Mass by refusing to condemn them (in fact, many of them are probably fully paid-up members). And mysteriously, they just happen to support every single anti-motorist measure...I wonder why?

Good to know that other bicycle newsgroups haven't gone down the pan in the same way. If I was a keen cycling advocate, I'd be furious about the car-haters pretending to be cycling advocates and trashing our reputation. Members of the rec.bicycles.* newsgroups need to be vigilant to ensure that the anti-motorist/CM crowd don't take over their groups in the same way as they have urc.

Guy Cuthbertson