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On Jan 29, 9:55 pm, aston  wrote: > I've jut seen this on Guy Chapman's web pages: > ========================================================================== > Paedo scum! > > Yes, it's official! Safespeeders are paedo scum! And here's the proof, > as published in the prestigious International Journal of Because I > Said So[1] > > The profile of paedophiles is as follows: > > Mostly male > Car owners (see numerous campaigns on stranger danger and not getting > into cars) > Convinced that theirs is a victimless offence of no provable detriment > to the victims (see NAMBLA[2]) > Sad obsessive no-life loners > Safespeeders are: > > Mostly male > Car owners > Convinced that theirs is a victimless offence of no provable detriment > to the victims > Sad obsessive no-life loners > The offender profiles are an exact match! > > Clearly it is proven beyond doubt that speed camera obsession is the > major cause of paedophilia. > ======================================================================= > > Care to explain it Guy? > > Do you think it funny? > > Don't you think that some people will find that offensive?

Oh look! *Yet another* person who despises Crapman the fuckwitted liar, "closet" motorist-hater and killer camera advocate! Yet another person who Crapman has pissed off over the Internet so much that they've sought him out on usenet to have a pop at him! It'll only take a few thousand more before the rest of the URC regulars finally accept that these sorts of threads will keep coming until "Just zis Lie" leaves this group, and stops using the legitimate cause of cycling as a cover for his illegitimate, highly offensive and ludicrous campaign to bully car drivers off the roads at all costs.

Aston, what he'll probably do now is remove that page from his website and then deny that it ever existed, taking the opportunity to sneer at you at the same time. That's his standard behaviour whenever someone embarrasses him by copying and pasting the "wrong" part of his Site of Hate. He did it when it was pointed out that he had flipflopped on helmets; he did it when it was pointed out that his site contained an explicit admission that he was "anti-motorist" and that he "hated cagers [car drivers]".

(You see, these days he's taken to denying that he hates motorists, despite how painfully obvious it is. Like many car-haters at the moment, he seems to think that he'll have a better chance of making drivers suffer if he plays dirty (dirtier) and pretends that he cares about "safety" instead.  It's a shame that, when he decided to change tack and start lying about hating motorists, he forgot to take down the offending page where he admitted to it.  It makes him even more of a joke, and even more of an obvious liar, than he would otherwise be.)

BTW, you'll probably now get the standard treatment that anyone gets when they ask him difficult questions: he'll call you a "troll", accuse you of talking "drivel", and boast about having "killfiled" you (despite not really having done so). Alternatively he'll pretend not to have seen your post. Either response will tell you that he's been beaten, he knows he can't answer your points without showing that you're right and/or that he's a lying twat, and he's too pompous and arrogant to even begin to contemplate thinking about considering doing the decent thing and accepting that you have a point or he's wrong about something.

Oh, and Crapman is male, a (hypocritical) car owner, convinced that his assault on motorists has no provable detriment in the long run (it'll "save lives in the end, even if the opposite's happening at the moment"), and a sad obsessive no-life loner. Does that make him paedo scum? He's scum certainly, and that's far too kind a way of describing anyone who campaigns for anti-motorist measures which they know to be killing thousands of people. (And he *does* know that they're killing people: he may deny it until he's blue in the face, and he may even delude himself about it, so desperate is he for it not to be true (because after all he loves his anti-motorist cameras). But deep down, he knows all right, as his continually evasive posts show, and the fact that he still advocates cameras despite that is utterly unforgivable.)