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On Jun 20, 5:10=A0pm, Judith M Smith  wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:16:08 +0100, Tom Crispin > >  wrote: > >  > > You are a gullible fool Crispin - and Chapman has pulled the wool over > your eyes - or you are in cohorts with Chapman. > > When you first mentioned the "joke" - I warned you that the joke was > on you - and indeed it is. > > Here is a little clue: > > Look at the timeline of events. > > Now ask Chapman yourself 2 questions: > > "Did you post as Lou Knee to call someone a shit?" > > "Did you then later have to manufacture the "joke" in order to try and > cover up your mistake?" > > If you are a man of honour you will ask him these questions by e-mail, > tell him that you are going to post his replies, and then do so. > > He has ensured that the joke is on you =A0-as you were warned.

What I'd really like to know is *why* Tom Crispin is so determined to cover for Chapman, even at the expense of making himself look so stupid, and even when Chapman has previously lied to and used him. Does he owe him for something? Is Chapman blackmailing him? If not, what has Chapman done to deserve this sycophancy? Does Crispin just admire Chapman because he's been such a dedicated anti-motorist - sorry, "pro-cyclist" - campaigner for so long? Or is there some other reason for it all?

Whatever the explanation, it's rather pathetic, and Tom Crispin would be helping us all (including, ultimately, himself) if he just admitted that Chapman made the first Lou Knee post (at least) and the "joke" was a complete fabrication.