Nuxx:B938b8c3-2f6f-4616-aab9-6fae619dfbc2@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:08:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <8q5f25t30lvkhmkuap4595krql6kaoner0@4ax.com>   <0adg25p0p1dqv74ugnjk6t470bsmcd69gj@4ax.com>   <84jj2516n0cv90h97jvum1r7sc0p0n0kep@4ax.com>    <8TSpN2HYgoKKFwEt@[127.0.0.1]> Lines: 41 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1244495293 23153 127.0.0.1 (8 Jun 2009 21:08:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3645 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:126190 uk.rec.cycling:849721

On Jun 6, 4:15=A0pm, "Wm..."  wrote: > Sat, 6 Jun 2009 14:25:57  uk.net.news.config > Alistair Gunn  > > >In uk.rec.cycling Wm... twisted the electrons to say: > >> I still think one person and their various forms in the kf would > >> actually sort things out. > > >It probably would, but only if enough people who are otherwise valued > >posters would do it and the evidence so far is that enough people won't. > >Therefore moderation would seem like the only route towards salvaging > >something by removing temptation (well, much of it anyway) from them. > > So the people from urc are asking uk.* to create a new moderated group > so temptation is removed from them?

Literally the first sensible thing you've said in this 1000-post thread.

There is no remotely good reason to create uk.rec.cycling.moderated, nor will it get the result that *anyone* wants. Getting rid of the two posters who bring by far the most trouble, Guy Chapman and "Spindrift", is by far the best way forward. Everything else will then fall into place, and the group will become a peaceful, genuinely cycling-related place, rather than somewhere for the car-haters and militant cyclists to post their deceitful, agenda-driven poison and their opponents to correct their rabid Lou-Knee nonsense.

Yes, some car-haters and militants would remain, but without the hateful, utterly despicable, scheming, violence-loving, "absolutely anything that makes things more difficult for motorists is automatically a good thing" hard-core of Chapman and Spindrift to spur them on, they would very quickly be made to realise that this is *not the place* to promote their extremist, idiotic, nutcase social engineering projects, and would either leave here or restrict their output appropriately (which I believe most except Chapman/Spindrift are capable of doing).

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