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In article , muzh@ihug.co.nz says... > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:50:38 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: > > > Weaving in and out of traffic, being a nuisance and then holds up the > > bus, someone should have got out and flattened him. > > There is absolutely no excuse for someone to initiate violence against > anyone else.

So you would equally condemn a cyclist who initiated violence against a motorist who had just (supposedly) nearly killed him with his driving?

I do agree with what you say though, and I don't think there should be any exceptions for corporal (or capital) punishment. Or for the continued (ab)use of road "safety" measures where there is hard evidence that they actually increase KSIs.