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On May 11, 3:00=A0pm, "mileburner"  wrote: > > Therefore from the people I know, cyclists *are* drivers too.

This has been done to death. Car-haters can (and often do) drive themselves, it merely makes them hypocrites: they believe that they are somehow more entitled to drive than the "rabble" because they're important enough for an exception to be applied. Chapman is a classic example: anyone who doesn't believe that he thinks himself more important than "ordinary" types is not very bright, to say the least.

"Do as I say, not as I do" is very much a cornerstone of socialism, which of course car-haters usually subscribe to. That's why Livingstone takes taxis everywhere, and doesn't have to pay a penalty fare when he does actually deign to take the train (and deliberately travels without a ticket). That's why Al Gore has a massive carbon footprint and is always jetting off to exotic locations for no good reason whatsoever, while he advocates all sorts of restrictions on the rest of us. That's why Communist governments had their own dedicated traffic lanes. Time and time again, you find that those who campaign for and instigate mean-spirited, socialism-related restrictions such as anti-motorist measures are living the high life themselves, and are much worse "offenders" (by their own self-righteous standards) than the rest of us.

The only reason this "I don't hate cars, I drive myself" nonsense keeps coming up is because the car-haters are desperate to lie and show that they don't hate cars (part of the "strategy"), but they can't come up with any real, proper way of doing so (unsurprisingly considering that they do actually hate cars); the only thing they can think of is to keep desperately repeating "But I drive myself" in the forlorn hope that someone might be deceived. But it isn't working, and it's just another facet of the car-haters' self-importance that they so consistently underestimate the intelligence of others.

One day they may just realise that they might be a bit more successful at getting motorists off the roads if they start telling the truth about hating cars and explaining why they think it would be better for people to stop driving, instead of getting people's backs up by lying and pretending to care about "safety", "the environment", "cycling" etc. Such a strategy certainly couldn't be any less effective than their current one. Still, I guess I shouldn't complain if they're rubbish at getting motorists off the roads...I'm quite happy for myself and everyone else to carry on driving, thanks, and I think cars are great. It may be sacrilege to say so on uk.rec.anti-motorist, but I couldn't really care less...at least I'm honest about what I think.