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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <2e134631-d979-492e-ae8d-7c95e9108c99@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Primary rubbish Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 06:55:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <4a190d4b$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Lines: 31 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243173315 5132 127.0.0.1 (24 May 2009 13:55:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2912 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:703619

On May 24, 10:03=A0am, Bod  wrote: > I am a car driver/motorcyclist and a cyclist and have been for 43 yrs. > I have never heard such claptrap in my life with this suggestion of > (primary position).Whoever thought this up is in need of a serious brain > scan IMHO.

I wouldn't let it bother you. Many of the so-called "cycling advocates" in this group are actually just car-haters pretending to be cycling advocates for PR purposes (they know people wouldn't take them seriously if they admitted to hating cars, which you'd think might tell them something). "Just zis Guy, you know?", "spindrift", "mileburner" and "Phil W Lee" are some of the very worst offenders. "Primary position" is just one of the things that the car-haters have dreamt up in order to make things less pleasant for motorists by stopping them from overtaking, despite the fact that it clearly puts the cyclists concerned in more danger as well.

(There are many other anti-motorist things which the car-haters also advocate in the full knowledge that they endanger cyclists, for example they oppose the opening of bus lanes to motorcycles in London even though that's been shown to make things safer for cyclists. So it's pretty ironic that these people call themselves cycling Unsurprisingly, these parasites have a terrible reputation among real cyclists.)
 * advocates* when they're actually making things *worse* for cyclists.

Anyway, the good news is that I see *very* few cyclists in either urban or rural areas adopting the pretentiously-named "primary position", which is great news for cyclists, motorists, pedestrians...everyone except the spiteful, interfering, lying, deranged car-haters in fact.