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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <7ac68895-edb5-47c4-aa08-a7dce9f9c48e@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: What king of newsgroup is this ?? Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:19:34 -0700 (PDT) References:    Lines: 50 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.145.93 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217474387 18396 127.0.0.1 (31 Jul 2008 03:19:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.145.93; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3652 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:659815

On Jul 30, 9:17=A0pm, Brian Goldsmith  wrote: > Martin wrote: > > Brian Goldsmith wrote: > >> I subscribed to this group about a week ago, but I don't see to much > >> about actual cycling. =A0It all seems to be about the politics. =A0Is > >> generally how this group is ? > >> If so does anybody know of a UK group where there is discussion about > >> rides, routes and bike stuff ? =A0That's what I was looking for when I > >> subscribed and I have been waiting to see if general level of > >> discussion is all about the politics of cycling as it has appeared to = me. > >> Brian > > > It has recently been dragged down by a couple of trolls, (and > > unfortunately I and others have been feeding them). However it is > > normally a fairly quite reasonable group. > > > Other places to look for cycling chat are the CTC forums, bike radar an= d > > a few others. > >www.ctc.org.uk > >http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/index.php?c=3D4 > > > Martin. > > Thanks for that Martin, =A0after I looked at message on line I was > surprised anyone could understand it, let alone reply. I typed in haste > and didn't notice all the mistakes until it was posted..

What he means by "trolls" is anyone who isn't anti-motorist, and/or points out that most of the posters here are anti-motorist rather than pro-cyclist. This is obvious from the fact that even Sir Jeremy, JNugent and Matt B are called "trolls", despite their respective styles being a lot less "direct" than mine. No-one is allowed to argue with the party line here without being branded a "troll".

See my previous message: the reason that there are no posts about real cycling is that there are few (if any) real cyclists here. These people call themselves "cycling advocates" because they think that sounds more acceptable than "motorist-haters", which is what they really are. Some of them are cyclists of course, but they're the militant ones, who are constantly jumping red lights, causing conflict with other road users (particularly motorists), and generally giving all cyclists a bad press.

Still, Martin is right that you should visit web forums instead. They do at least feature real, "moderate" cyclists, although you'll be wanting to stay out of the "Soapbox" and "Campaign"-type forums, as like this newsgroup, they are anti-motorist in nature.