Nuxx:E17bba56-86b9-4f5f-9374-74d25dc10a4f@37g2000yqp.googlegroups.com

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On Jul 7, 9:37 am, Simon Brooke  wrote: > You forget that Herr Nuxx believes he has the right to pick and choose > which laws he's obliged to obey.

At least I'm not complicit in the creation of a supposedly "moderated" newsgroup which is actually just a thoroughly dishonest exercise in censorship of the "wrong" opinions. Just think, you won't have to make snide remarks like that anymore soon, as no-one will be allowed to say anything that you would want to make such remarks in reference to. Bet you can't wait.

Don't you feel even a little bit bad about lying about the real purpose of the new group? If you love usenet so much, why are you abusing its processes in this way? If you want a private club where only certain opinions are allowed, why not just set up a private web forum instead of pretending that you want a genuine moderated newsgroup? Sure, it might be a bit harder to get people to join such a forum than it would URCM, but at least the whole thing wouldn't be one big lie. Usenet is not the place for systematic suppression of certain points of view, and you know it.

And anyway people will leave URCM in their droves once they realise what it's really about, so you won't gain anything from the deception in the end. Why not stop the charade before it's too late (and you've permanently ruined URC into the bargain)? Do you *really* think this dressing up of censorship as moderation is the right course of action?

I get the impression you were talked into this by Jackson. I'm sure you know really that this is the wrong way to go about things. So please stand up for your principles (assuming you have any) and tell Jackson that you are not prepared to support a group which is being created on a false premise. Even if you believe that URC has its problems, and "something must be done", that doesn't mean this "something" is the right "something", and that it won't actually just make things worse.