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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <796caf7e-b79c-4c35-a35c-97fb18a913c3@z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Evening Standard bum gravy. Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:40:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <246b22f1-759e-411f-afdc-5049619d147d@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>   Lines: 30 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.208.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1241476836 8189 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2009 22:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.208.50; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2399 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:699495

On May 4, 11:30=A0pm, JNugent  wrote: > Tom Crispin wrote: > > spindrift  wrote: > >> How shit do you predict the article with this headline is going to > >> be? > >> Boris's bikers must not rule the roads > >>http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23684400-details/Boris..= . > >> together with the obligatory comments including a highly implausible > >> cyclist assault. > > I see Tony Raven has made a comment. > > If he is "Tony, Cambridge", his remark and question are: > > "Do you know how many people a year are killed in a collision with a cycl= ist? > About one. Do you know how many are killed by cars on pedestrian crossing= s > alone? About 40 (~700 overall on the roads). So what do you think the rea= l > risk is?" > > And the answer is that the real risk is drivers and cyclists ignoring the > rules at pedestrian crossings, of course. > > What else?

That cars are bad and all drivers should be banned, of course. (Oh, and cyclists are completely blameless and no laws should apply to them.)