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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e21a6f0$0$2482$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Whose Fault? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:57:51 +0100 References: <4e21940e$0$2931$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> <3484fa60-5bf7-42f1-af6f-3054508e2201@x10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>  <98dknbFa2hU1@mid.individual.net>  <98dl79Fd4cU2@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 53 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: c768018f.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=hAh5gk=RZ21nfn@OA0Q;890g@SS;SF6n7R9OH0:RnEN42Bnd^9j0A0;`:ITG5aA:c7fcKo1SSo X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 3191 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:817078

On 16/07/2011 15:46, Mr Pounder wrote: > "Bod"  wrote in message > news:98dl79Fd4cU2@mid.individual.net... >> On 16/07/2011 15:18, Mr Pounder wrote: >>> "Bod" wrote in message >>> news:98dknbFa2hU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 16/07/2011 15:04, Mr Pounder wrote: >>>>> "Simon Mason"  wrote in message >>>>> news:3484fa60-5bf7-42f1-af6f-3054508e2201@x10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Jul 16, 2:37 pm, Nuxx Bar  wrote: >>>>>> A driver is proceeding along an urban road, within the Magic Speed >>>>>> Limit, when suddenly, without warning (having been stationary on the >>>>>> pavement), a cyclist cycles across a pedestrian crossing (against the >>>>>> pedestrian light) right in front of the driver. The driver cannot >>>>>> swerve as there is oncoming traffic and it's a narrow road, so he >>>>>> tries >>>>>> an emergency stop, but he still ends up hitting the cyclist giving him >>>>>> some nasty injuries. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whose fault is this collision? >>>>> >>>>> The cyclist of course. >>>>> Next. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Mason >>>>> >>>>> Errrrrr, I suspect a trick here. >>>>> If the driver saw the cyclist on the footpath he should have expected >>>>> him >>>>> to >>>>> do something stupid? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> So, unless we have to assume that all cyclists are that stupid, I'd say >>>> it >>>> was the cyclists fault. >>> >>> The OP's question stinks. I suspect a trap. >>> >>>> >>> >> Hmm! I still think it's the cyclists fault. > > This lot are tricky. > Nobody would post something like this without a cunning plan.

No trick/trap/cunning plan, I can assure you. The story is straightforward and "as is" and I will not be adding any "hidden" element to it. I am merely interested in whose fault people think the collision is.