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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe09.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cars pulling out of junctions Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:02:21 +0000 References:  <1i0exl19dmo30$.zax26vx739a3.dlg@40tude.net>  <8NydnUCPzo1MIwDUnZ2dnUVZ8j2WnZ2d@bt.com> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8NydnUCPzo1MIwDUnZ2dnUVZ8j2WnZ2d@bt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.23.23.138 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe09.ams2 1235077356 82.23.23.138 (Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:02:36 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:02:36 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3129 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:828284

Marc wrote: > _ wrote: >> _ wrote: >>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:20:59 GMT, Brown Cat wrote: >>> >>>> Twice in as many as two days I've joined a roundabout and the cars >>>> before the junction before has jolted forward forcing me to brake to >>>> avoid a collision. But they stop before reaching a point where they >>>> would have hit me. Today after it happened I looked at the driver >>>> and he was just looking straight ahead so he must have seen me. >>>> It just feels like some motorists like playing this game where they >>>> try to spook the cyclist. Anyone else find this sometimes happens? >>> >>> Hanlon's razor applies. >> >> Coming away from Alton Towers this afternoon I passed a Give Way >> junction on the right where a queue of vehicles was waiting. First car >> had a cyclist alongside him, nearest the curb. 40mph limit, and as I >> approached the cyclist pulled out to turn right into my path, was >> wobbling as he built up momentum from a standstill, and left me no >> room to pass him without crossing the centre line - couldn't do that >> as traffic was coming the other way. Only thing to do was stamp on >> middle pedal. >> The point I was making was, if the car driver (with an acceleration >> ability several orders of magnitude more than a bike) thought there >> was insufficient room to pull out in front of me, why did the >> cretinous cyclist think he'd be okay? If he'd been right in the gutter >> that might have worked, with me having room to pass him still in my >> lane, but by not doing that he left me with no alternative but to jam >> the brakes on to avoid him. > I hope it didn't delay your arriving at the next braking point by too > many seconds?

About the response I expected... comme d'habitude, URC is quick to condemn motorists at even the slightest whiff of wrongdoing, but fail to criticise their own for anything. Be daft to expect anything else, really.