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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!p12g2000vbo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <891c0468-febc-4ada-b113-803a37d67dd0@p12g2000vbo.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Re: URCM is now dead Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:17:27 -0800 (PST) References:   <20110224135120.715c9f6c@bluemoon>  <1jx7meb.npq8yd14rrij4N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> Lines: 27 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.71.49.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1298636248 15285 127.0.0.1 (25 Feb 2011 12:17:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p12g2000vbo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=82.71.49.124; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5.8; U; en) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2771 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.moderation:37960

On Feb 24, 8:12=A0pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > > You (collectively) have managed to prove that you could argue yourselves > blue in the face and descend into petty nastiness even when the claimed > source of your woes is removed from the equation.

This is a very good point. One of the few benefits of Judith and me being banned is that we cannot possibly be blamed for any of the issues the group is currently having.

As you say, simple deduction points to the psycholists being the problem. They have an infamous intolerance of dissent which simply isn't shared by the denizens of other transport-related newsgroups. Why they're so intolerant is another discussion, but it's indisputable that they are. Ergo any group containing the psycholists, no matter how much "moderation" there is, will fail in the same way. (I know I'm pretty much just restating what you put but it's difficult to improve on it!)

I think you can probably divide the psycholists into those who set out to be intolerant as part of their "strategy" (e.g. Chapman and Lee), and those who probably don't do it deliberately (maybe Raven, and Clive George, although the latter perhaps isn't a psycholist). For the ones who don't do it deliberately, there is still some hope of creating a harmonious, welcoming newsgroup. But there is no hope of a tolerant cycling-related newsgroup as long as the likes of Chapman are posting.