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On May 3, 8:24=A0pm, johannes  wrote: > thaksin wrote: > > > Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: > > > On Sun, 03 May 2009 18:12:04 +0100, johannes > > >  wrote: > > > >> I've heard it all before. > > > > So have we. =A0End of, really. > > > You haven't heard SFA Guy, unless its in strict agreement with cycling. > > You stick your fingers in your ears and shout "I can't hear you, I can'= t > > hear you, you're a trollllll" :) > > Yes, I should have realised. Best to let them dictate the reply they want > to hear, that will keep them happy :-) > > The sad thing is that I like cycling myself and have nothing against cycl= ists, > and don't understand why this has become such a tribal issue.

It's because a lot of the "cycling advocates" on urc are really just car-haters who pretend to be cycling advocates because they know that sounds more acceptable. You'd think that knowing that car-haters are so despised may tell them something about the validity of being one, but apparently not.

You can tell that these people are car-haters rather than cycling advocates because they support things which make things worse for car drivers *and* cyclists, such as speed cameras (which endanger cyclists the same as all road users). They show their true colours by *always* prioritising the persecution of motorists way above the protection of cyclists and everything else.

Chapman is of course such a dishonest car-hater. Looking through his posts, it's impossible to come to any other rational conclusion.