Nuxx:49018530-54c2-472c-8cda-989eb2290220@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <49018530-54c2-472c-8cda-989eb2290220@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: A Simple Question Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:22:07 -0800 (PST) References:  <31dc2192-bd85-4f50-a672-579fc16de880@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Lines: 35 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.160.137.186 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1231449727 8091 127.0.0.1 (8 Jan 2009 21:22:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.160.137.186; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3041 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:682557

On Jan 5, 9:22=A0pm, al Mossah  wrote: > On 3 Jan, 21:32, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > =A0Along the route between A and B is a > > stretch of road which was NSL until a few years ago, but now has a > > 30mph limit, > > So it's been a 30mph limit for a number of years. =A0So, what was his > excuse for ignoring it? > > Over Christmas I drove around 1400 miles, passing through many "camera > zones", passing several yellow boxes and passing at least one mobile > camera (on a motorway bridge). =A0I may have passed others, but didn't > see them. =A0I may have been flashed. =A0If so, it was because I was an > idiot for not obeying the speed limit. =A0I will be fined, and will pay > my fine. =A0It will be MY fault.

So, you'd sooner admit that you were driving like an idiot (and therefore putting lives at risk) than admit that there was anything wrong with your beloved cameras. Quite incredible. The contortions that camera supporters go through to maintain their stance never cease to amaze me.

We both know that you chose to drive in that way because you believed that it was safe at the time (and you were almost certainly right). So it's no good suddenly pretending now that you believe that it was idiotic. It won't wash. You know that it's possible to drive safely above the limit, you know that cameras aren't making things any better (except for the lying motorist-haters and those who are profiting from them), so why pretend otherwise? Because you're too proud to say "I used to think that cameras worked, but now I realise I was wrong"?

Other than exceeding speed limits, are there any other examples of behaviours which you exhibit every day, yet would be prepared to say "I was an idiot" about?