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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:37:14 +0100, Tosspot  wrote:

>Seems the troll feeders are still feeding the trolls, moody judy and >fuxxwitt still about. Any reason I should stay? > > >Trolls, post your responses here --v, promise to answer, honest; and >someone give me a toss for every troll feeder that responds.

As it quite rightly says elsewhere, the "trolls" will disappear once this newsgroup has become what it should be (a neutral discussion group for cyclists, not a resource for lying motorist-haters and the like), and not before. Why would there be any "trolls" if this newsgroup wasn't overtly political in nature? Why would the "trolls" have even found this place if it wasn't renowned as a hangout for Guy "Murderer" Chapman, Spindrift and other infamous, despised, reviled motorist-haters and general twats?

Once this newsgroup has become a non-political, recreational discussion group like any other, no-one will ever seek to disrupt it. Why would they? Surely you can see that they wouldn't bother, any more than they would with any other normal recreational discussion group. The continued targetting of this group by "trolls" is not "to have a laugh" or anything like that, it's simply because the "trolls" object to a small percentage of the posters on this group, who are misusing the group to campaign "secretly" against motorists, and trying to influence others into going along with their campaign by posting misleading rubbish about how anti-motorist measures "improve safety".

All the "trolls" want is for this small number of posters to either go away, or stop posting lies and disinformation in order to win support for their campaign. Once that happens, the "trolls" won't want to disrupt the group anymore. I repeat: *why would they*? What would they get out of it? It's not really that fun, I can assure you. But it's necessary for me to do my bit to disrupt what I see as a vicious and utterly unacceptable campaign against motorists. And so I will keep disrupting this group until the motorist-haters stop using it to further that campaign. In the end, doing so will benefit the genuine posters here as well as me and the other people who don't like the motorist-haters.

Now then. Do we understand yet? Are we serious about getting rid of the "trolls" and improving this group, or do we just want to moan? Are you prepared to declare completely honestly that you don't think any posters on this group have a hidden anti-motorist agenda? Didn't think so. So if you know that such posters are here, and you know that they're ultimately the reason for the "troll" problem, then you know you need to do something about them, sooner rather than later.