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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e2598ff$0$2945$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Educating people about alternatives to the car. Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:47:27 +0100 References:  <4e255004$0$2931$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>  Lines: 32 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 949c296e.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=Nc?UcZY[bk:E3WMIEjoi@2YjZGX^207P;` X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2762 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:847753

On 19/07/2011 10:58, Simon Mason wrote: > On Jul 19, 10:36 am, Nuxx Bar  wrote: >> On 18/07/2011 10:13, Simon Mason wrote: >> >> > Laudable scheme where householders are asked to not just jump in their >> > cars by rote every day, but to consider greener alternatives. >> >> How unsurprising that you would support such a controlling, anti-car, >> patronising scheme. >> > > No one is forcing them at the point of a gun, are they?

Some would like to. Anyway it's antagonistic that in these austere times, money is *still* being wasted on pointless anti-motorist nonsense like this, speed limit reductions, converting perfectly good roundabouts into traffic lights in order to cause congestion, etc. All the time, things which people actually want are being cut, yet somehow money is always found for these pointless assaults on drivers. Something is clearly very wrong in this so-called "democracy".

Going back to this latest absurdity, I expect that a common theme will be "I'd like to use my car less, but public transport is inadequate". In other words, what we all knew already, and simply trying to make driving more difficult without doing anything else will not make any difference to those people's choice of mode, it will just frustrate them, leading to collisions.

I wonder if Car-Hater Chapman will be the door-to-door person for my area? I'm sure he'd very much enjoy the task. Come to think of it, maybe I'll apply, and then "accidentally" tell everyone something a bit different from what I'm supposed to....