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On Aug 5, 10:21=A0am, spindrift  wrote: > On Aug 5, 10:10=A0am, nato...@googlemail.com wrote: > > > > > On 5 Aug, 10:03, spindrift  wrote: > > > > On Aug 5, 9:54=A0am, Roger Thorpe  > > > wrote: > > > > > Wow Nuxx you really have turned into the Anti-Doug. > > > > Have a little think about how effective or not he is at spreading a > > > > message of reasonable environmental sensitivity and CO2 reduction..= .... > > > > > Now think about whether you are just here to have an argument or wh= ether > > > > you really care about the issues...... > > > > > Roger Thorpe > > > > 1/ > > > > the child's name was Ellis Smith and using his name to slag off > > > cyclists is beneath contempt > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7536707.stm > > > > 2/ > > > > Bus drivers are regularly criticised here, seach on Vicky McCreery, > > > whose death at the hands of a bus driver who went to prison was > > > discussed at length here. There's no selectivity about criticising > > > dangerous drivers here, you don't know what you are talking about. > > > > 3/ > > > > In Ellis's case the bus driver hasn't been attacked because nobody > > > knows how he died yet. > > > > 4/ > > > > You are mad. > > > Accidents can happen anywhere. This doesn't prove anything really as > > it is a one off. Somebody I know died from tripping over a cat!! > > Doesn't mean cats are a bad idea and should be banned, although two > > dead mice on my kitchen floor this morning did test this theory!- Hide = quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > This is an unusual case as, it seems from limited knowledge, the > cyclist rode out in front of the bus. Most RTAs are caused not by > "accident" but by driver error, be it speeding, drunk, drugged, > distracted, whatever.

By dishonestly adding "speeding" to the list, you are distorting road safety priorities, which ultimately leads to unnecessary deaths.

Of the many tens of thousands of news stories that there have been about road accidents, how many can you cite where exceeding a speed limit was ascertained as the cause of the accident? If you can cite few or none, you are just showing that you only say that "speeding" is a main cause of accidents because you want cameras, and you only want cameras because you're an anti-motorist scumbag who doesn't care if cameras are killing people, as long as they're randomly fining >99.9% of drivers day in, day out.