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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9f568a7c-0f21-47e1-b325-369e5a1955b2@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Road rage incident this morning - advice? Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:02:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <77cd082e-0c07-463a-a8cf-bc379d412437@j8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>  <73h4p5Fv5vdiU1@mid.individual.net> <1ln6t4t74ao67bi8q9gct8sk48udf31u8a@4ax.com> Lines: 79 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1238875350 13621 127.0.0.1 (4 Apr 2009 20:02:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.147; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 5557 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:693246

On Apr 1, 1:48=A0pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:28:08 +0100, Peter Clinch >  said in > <73h4p5Fv5vd...@mid.individual.net>: > > >Check out the highway Code's suggestions on how to pass and it involves > >leaving /plenty/ of space, so on almost all roads you'll need to be well > >over the centre line in any case to pass as you /ought/ to even if the > >cyclist is in the "secondary" position. > > "Mr Benn" is spouting typical militant motorist bollocks. =A0I've seen > this from ABD, they were agitating to beef up the "don't hold up > other road users" para while simultaneously making excuses for those > who break the speed limit. =A0Mr. Toad is alive and well and driving a > Vectra...

Is that why you advised your beloved government to reject all of the ABD's amendments out of hand, no matter how sensible they were? Or is that just because you're a car-hating tool who wants to make things more difficult for motorists, no matter what the consequences are for other road users?

> My experience has been that if there is room to pass safely then > most drivers will pass safely, but if there is not room to pass > safely there is a small subset of drivers who will feel compelled to > pass anyway. =A0Of course they will also seek to blame this on someone > else, self-excusing is a consistent feature of studies into > motorists' attitudes, especially with respect to cyclists, but you > are absolutely right that we should not stop following the best > advice we have (Cyclecraft) in order to pander to those who refuse > to accept anyone else's right to choose how they use the road. These > are the same people who blame less confident drivers for "causing" > dangerous overtaking. =A0The real cause is selfishness, the "speed > imperative", and the fact that drivers habitually overestimate their > own skill level relative to others.

More venomous anti-motorist bollocks which comes from your own spiteful prejudices rather than any hard evidence. No motorist is allowed to want to make progress; they should be grateful that they're even allowed to be on the road at all, because they "shouldn't" be.

> I think the most complete fuckwit I ever saw on the roads was the > driver of a green Rover who pulled out to overtake a van, saw me > coming the other way on my bike, and carried on anyway. =A0This was a > narrow A road, the A4155 between Shiplake and Henley, there was > *nowhere* for me to go and I ended up throwing myself and my bike > off the road (I still have a scar on my leg from this).

What a guy! Can you honestly blame any motorist for not taking such a wonderful opportunity to injure one of their most infamous and constant tormentors?

> The brainless twunt didn't even stop, none of the witnesses stopped, so > he is still driving around completely free of any consequences.

Why would anyone have stopped? They were probably all celebrating. Unfortunately, if you make it your main pastime to campaign vociferously against motorists, you can hardly expect them to be sympathetic (as opposed to chuckling to themselves) when you get hurt on the road, especially since you knowingly campaign for anti-motorist measures which kill people. Still, look on the bright side: you probably made those people's days a lot more pleasant.

> And I am surprised by how pissed off I still am on remembering this, I > thought I'd let it go but apparently not. =A0There is something about > people who think a few seconds of their time is worth more than the > whole of the rest of someone else's life that just brings out the > worst in me, I guess.

Oh no, the "worst" is an awful lot worse than that. And there's something about people who think that pissing off motorists is worth more than thousands of road users' lives that makes me fucking hate them with an absolute, undying passion. You fucking murdering bastard. Let's hope that your next accident is a lot worse, that you rot in hell, and that whoever you collide with gets off completely scot-free (indeed I think a medal would be appropriate).

Cunt.