Nuxx:24629ada-bd43-405b-b369-b0dbb539a6b7@g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <24629ada-bd43-405b-b369-b0dbb539a6b7@g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclists on Pavements Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:44:27 -0700 (PDT) References:    Lines: 19 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.209.43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246812267 23006 127.0.0.1 (5 Jul 2009 16:44:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.209.43; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2146 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:714788

On Jul 5, 5:16=A0pm, JNugent  wrote: > > So if cycling isn't safe on the carriageway (that's a huge "if", by the w= ay), > and if cycling in the footway isn't safe for pedestrians (and it isn't), = then > the answer is clear: don't cycle at all.

Oh dear. That wouldn't be allowed through on URCM. You're not allowed to be negative about cycling (and also your opinions are just the sorts of opinions which the new group is being created to censor). Still, judging by the fact that you haven't participated in any of the URCM discussions, I doubt you'll be posting in URCM at all (though unfortunately URCM will probably still affect you by being the death of URC, so I urge you to vote against the proposal).

> What right does a cyclist have to shift their risks onto pedestrians?

Simple: cyclists are better than pedestrians.