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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder.news-service.com!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe21.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclists going through red traffic lights Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:14:03 +0000 References: <72h0pkFpshmdU1@mid.individual.net>    <72jrorFqjg4dU3@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 44 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.12.82.202 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe21.ams2 1237634074 86.12.82.202 (Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:14:34 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:14:34 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3108 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690418

Peter Grange wrote: > On 21 Mar 2009 09:53:31 GMT, "Alex"  wrote: > >> At 17:42:05 on 20/03/2009, Peter Grange delighted uk.legal by >> announcing: >> >>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:25:44 +0000, Judith Smith >>>  wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:28:53 GMT, "Mrcheerful"  >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Iain wrote: >>>>>> I have just walked back from the shops. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I was going, I came to the traffic lights just by Willesden bus >>>>>> garage. Two sets were red. From each of these sets, a cyclist >>> went >>> straight through them. >>>>>> As I was returning, past the same set of lights, I saw I cyclist >>>>>> waiting for the lights to turn green. I felt like giving him one >>> of >>> my oranges! >>>>>> Can the cycling community not do something to dissuade these >>> people >>> from jumping the lights? It certainly causes frustration >>> from >>> drivers who have to so frequently watch this deliberate >>> flaunting of >>> the law, and continues to give cyclists such a poor >>> name - certainly >>> within London. >>>>>> Iain >>>>> the only thing that might dissuade cyclists from jumping lights >>>>> is if their cycles were likely to be confiscated if they get >>>>> caught doing it. it would only need a few examples well >>>>> publicised to encourage the rest. >>>>> >>>> Ride on pavement - or run a red light - cycle confiscated - >>>> excellent. >>> drive car on pavement, >> Except for driving a few feet *onto* a pavement when parking, I don't >> think I've ever seen a car being driven on a pavement. > > And is that, or is it not, driving on a pavement? > (often just to illegally park there)

Why do you unfailingly criticise car drivers transgressions while regularly condoning similar offences by cyclists? Is it because you're blind to it, or are you content being a hypocritical turd?