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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.stack.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e334415$0$2536$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another driver who should not have been there. Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:36:51 +0100 References: <16-dnalKUqOuQLLTnZ2dnUVZ7r2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk> <99a6kvFefhU1@mid.individual.net> <4e301c03$0$2523$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> <99dv2sF53rU1@mid.individual.net> <9f470397-056d-4af8-acb7-3a89a0dcd8f4@e40g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <99frkqFajcU1@mid.individual.net> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99frkqFajcU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: d9e9d2a0.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=K0Fgdb\nJYM@?MVKcEFV`Knok4Z\f?JbkHEn On 29/07/2011 14:27, Simon Mason wrote: >> On Jul 28, 9:28 pm, JNugent wrote: > >>>> As it is, I would already expect a dreadful, >>>> screeching, sanctimonious, staged fuss to be made if someone >>>> happened to >>>> be driving at 31mph in a former NSL (now 30mph) when a fatal collision >>>> occurred which was in no way their fault (and which they couldn't have >>>> avoided even by going at 30mph). After all, they "wouldn't have been >>>> there" (at that point in the road) if they'd been driving slower... >> >> Stop being such a drama queen. We're not talking about 31mph, we are >> talking about appalling cases such as this. >> >> http://road.cc/content/news/39850-twice-speed-limit-driver-jailed-after-cyclists-death >> >> >> Simon Mason > > ?? > > I am not quoted above.

No. Especially odd since Simon has apparently "killfiled" you! Perhaps he's reconsidered. I hope so.

Anyway, the irony of being called a drama queen about 31 in a 30 by the person who constantly claims that "speeding" is so unspeakably awful is not lost on me. The fact that the same person is happy to drive at 120mph on Autobahns (and, yes, cycle at 25mph in 20mph zones) just adds layers of hypocrisy. It's like he really thinks that "speeding" is automatically dangerous just because "the law" says so, but as soon as it's not legally "speeding", it's suddenly not dangerous anymore. Or are we going to get an admission that "speeding" can sometimes be safe? It must be one or the other....