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On Jun 16, 12:11=A0pm, Nobby Anderson  wrote: > Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote: > > > > Sounds like a presentation on household security from the thieves > > guild. > > Eh? =A0What's wrong with the IAM?

Maybe you're now slowly beginning to realise that Chapman dislikes anyone who treats motorists with anything but contempt, and he especially dislikes anyone who "glamourises" motoring by (for example) trying to increase the skill of drivers (and never mind whether that increases safety). This is because his only concern is making things hard for drivers, no matter what the cost in terms of safety. How many posts does he have to make like the one that you replied to before you start to even entertain the possibility that I'm correct? Seriously, how many?

If he *really* cared about "cyclist safety", he'd be all for improving the skill of drivers. As it is, he mysteriously just happens to only support measures which treat driving negatively and make motorists suffer (I bet you can't provide any examples to the contrary). Is that just a massive coincidence do you think, or is it because he hates motorists, and he just pretends to care about "road safety" as a front for that? When you look at his posting history, and his website (which until recently even contained a page about him "hating cagers" and being "vehemently anti-motorist": I kid you not), there's only one conclusion that a remotely sane person could possibly come to.

Go on, admit it: you're not completely convinced that I'm wrong about this, are you? (I know you'll read this post, so if you don't reply I'll assume that that is indeed the case and you don't have the guts to say so.)