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On Apr 11, 7:10=A0am, Doug  wrote: > On 10 Apr, 09:41, "Simon Mason"  wrote:> Ac= cording to this report, research findings will be released next year. Does > > anyone know if we are able to lobby the people behind this research? > > >http://www.bognor.co.uk/barkes-at-large/Make-it-law-for-cyclists.5154... > > What this article seems to ignore is that cyclists are already blamed > for not wearing a helmet when hit by a driver. Indeed, any excuse can > and will be used for blaming the vulnerable cyclist, usually to save > an insurance company paying out and to protect the driver's no claim > bonus and reputation. The police too seem all to ready to assume it > was the cyclist's fault initially.

crazed, militant, car-hating, vocal minority of "cycling advocates" (who may or may not actually cycle in real life) have done a great hatchet job on the reputation of normal cyclists, so much so that normal cyclists are automatically presumed to be crazed, militant car-haters by many.
 * If* that's the case, it once again comes down to the fact that the

Congratulations to the crazed, militant car-haters, who of course are much harder for the ordinary cyclists. Mind you, it's difficult to feel sorry for the ordinary cyclists when they refuse to disown the militants; as long as the militant car-haters like Chapman and Spindrift are allowed to speak for cyclists in general, this issue will not go away.
 * still* doing their thing, and therefore *still* making things much,