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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!w7g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <5a97860d-4987-4d00-b4d5-6c3f772d534d@w7g2000pre.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Re: OT : A little bet with Wm Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 05:09:49 -0800 (PST) References: <3EG4+4e0t3KNFwIC@[127.0.0.1]>  <6FbruriAk5KNFwJV@[127.0.0.1]>         <0vsnk65eub55807b2qa6kn4mivirkuld99@4ax.com> Lines: 54 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.71.49.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1296824989 5747 127.0.0.1 (4 Feb 2011 13:09:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w7g2000pre.googlegroups.com; posting-host=82.71.49.124; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5.8; U; en) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4168 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.moderation:36801

On Feb 4, 12:46=A0pm, Judith  wrote: > On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:55:05 +0000, Tom Crispin > >  wrote: > >  > > There was nothing wrong with the original wording - so I am unsure why > you changed it: > > >I say that Porky Chapman only invited you to post as Lou Knee *after* > >I had posted the IP details - and he had therefore been rumbled. > > >You say that he told you he was going to have a joke at my expense and > >post as Lou Knee, before he was rumbled. > > Wm has now changed his mind and it now seems neither of the two > statements are true - despite his original claims - as he was never > invited or told it was a joke. > > So that bet is off. > > However - I am more than happy to have a bet with someone who has > definitely claimed that they were told it was all a joke - and perhaps > even posted as Lou Knee themself. > > Would *you* be up for such a bet?

I think it would be beneficial for Tom to tell us exactly when the "anonymous email containing the Lou Knee Google Groups account details" was sent to him, and also whether he could see any of its other recipients (or whether they were BCCed), and if so, whether Chapman was one of them. Perhaps Tom could also post the text of the email? I feel confident that unlike some he will not lie and say he "doesn't have the email anymore" unless that's really the case.

It would be interesting, and somewhat revealing, to know whether the email was sent before or after Chapman's "piece of shit" Lou Knee post, and also whether it was sent before or after your revelation that the IP used in that post had mysteriously also been used by Chapman. We should then be able to determine whether Chapman was one of the recipients of that email, and the first to enact the hilarious "joke", or whether he made the post and then hurriedly sent out the email himself after he was rumbled (which of course would be him all over).

Alternatively, of course, Chapman could just admit making the post. I very much doubt anyone truly believes that he didn't, so who does he think he's fooling? It's just pure stubbornness for the sake of it; he will never, ever concede, no matter how beneficial it would be to him and others, because only weak people ever admit they're wrong, no matter whether they actually are or not. It's that kind of attitude which sets him apart from pretty much everyone else and gets some people's backs up so much.