Nuxx:Cbdcbf7b-a83c-49d5-98f7-c290d191badd@z31g2000vbs.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z31g2000vbs.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Helmets: Chapman Should Put His Money Where His Mouth Is Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:49:50 -0800 (PST) Lines: 36 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.71.49.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1299170990 21393 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2011 16:49:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z31g2000vbs.googlegroups.com; posting-host=82.71.49.124; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2959 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:801013

Chapman (aka "Just zis Guy, you know?") has recently had the following post to URCM rejected for abuse (I've snipped all the useless PGP rubbish):

> On 02/03/2011 21:47, Steve Walker wrote: > > Are you saying that Angela Lee knowingly propagates false information in > > order to obtain funding which she should not properly be entitled to? > > That would be a very serious allegation to publicly make against the founder > > of a children's safety charity. > > I'm sure Marc would not have made such a suggestion about the founder of > a children's safety charity. The leader of a bunch of lying bike-haters, > on the other hand...

If he thinks that Angela Lee (of BHIT) is indeed the "leader of a bunch of lying bike-haters", and so obviously and deliberately misusing statistics, then he should be able to pulverise her in a public debate. Both Chapman and Angela Lee live in the same town (Reading), so it's time for Chapman to challenge Angela Lee to a debate, say in the Town Hall. He could contact her directly, or I'm sure he could do it through the Reading Post (who recently featured an article on Angela Lee), or the Reading Chronicle. If Angela Lee refused the challenge then Chapman could claim that as a victory of sorts.

But what is surely indisputable is that if Chapman really believes what he says about helmets and Angela Lee, then he should have no problem putting forward such a challenge. If he refuses to do so then one has to wonder why, and his comments about Ms Lee should be considered in that light. If such a debate takes place then I will go along, video it and put it online.

Over to you, Guy. And please don't pretend that you haven't seen this: no-one has fallen for that nonsense for years. Just yesterday you made a post that you couldn't possibly have done unless you'd directly seen what I'd written.