Nuxx:03e390ef-7220-4dd0-9d25-4e7cf758eab7@j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <03e390ef-7220-4dd0-9d25-4e7cf758eab7@j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) References:   <1j0r8kz.4vp3u91arwq1lN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> Lines: 32 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1244063196 18854 127.0.0.1 (3 Jun 2009 21:06:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2796 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:52814 uk.rec.cycling:4714

On Jun 3, 9:57=A0pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > jms  wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:27:52 +0100, Ian Jackson > >  wrote: > > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) > > > I would like to see the following in the charter: > > > Moderators should attempt to ensure that discussions can continue > > without undue delay, and should therefore attempt to make a decision > > on all posts within a few hours of submission. > > > Records will be kept and be freely available on-line for inspection to > > show the time taken from each message being posted to a decision on it > > being made. > > No. That's stupid and unreasonable. Moderators are volunteers and are > allowed to have lives.

Yes, but equally any deliberate attempts by "moderators" to delay posts simply because they want to scupper a discussion (say, because the wrong side is winning and/or the truth is being closed in upon and they don't want it to be) should be prevented if possible, and disciplined if not.

Unfortunately, because we (at present at least) have at least 3 "moderators" who have a track record of censoring those who they disagree with, it's necessary to consider how they are likely to abuse their "moderator" status and how to ensure that it doesn't happen.