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On Apr 11, 6:06=A0pm, Sir Jeremy  wrote: > On 11 Apr, 16:29, TerryJ  wrote: > > > > > > There are no complete innocents on the road, but some pose more risk > > > to others by their choice of transport and how they use it. > > > > If instead of hitting a car, the 12year old had hit a adult cyclist a= nd > > > damaged their expensive bike, would you still absolve the child of > > > responsibility? > > > > pk > > > The 12 yr old was hit by a car so hard that he smashed the windscreen. > > I would not complain if I did that to a child and the penalty was > > 150quid. > > How often do you think a driver should expect to hit a child and incur > > such a cost while driving in a manner acceptable to you? Are you > > afraid that your family might be plunged into poverty by all this > > expense? > > Irrelevant. The 12 yr old was at fault. The guilty party pays (unless > of course he is a cyclist and therefore automatically whiter than > white and morally superior in every way)

Well said.