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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!87.79.20.101.MISMATCH!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e286360$0$2938$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: n+1 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:35:23 +0100 References:    <4e2810db$0$2942$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>  Lines: 59 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: e19a065e.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=d?\B^6P[LIITHJl0YRfECGYjZGX^207PK` On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:43:22 +0100, Nuxx Bar  > wrote: > >> On 20/07/2011 23:36, Bertie Wooster wrote: >>> >>> I used my real name previously, Tom Crispin. >> >> Ah. Hadn't spotted that. Thanks for filling us in. Although you're >> going to have to cop a long reply now (even by my standards)! ;-) >> >>> However, I found that >>> cyclist friends were asking me what I was doing replying to various >>> 'trolls' on Usenet. Unable to give a coherent answer, I decided to >>> stop posting under my real name and use a pseudonym instead. >> >> It's a great shame you didn't just tell them to FOAD and that you'll do >> what you jolly well like. Why are these people even reading the threads >> concerned?  Was one of them Chapman (as if I need to ask)?  Are you >> going to let him order you about after how he treated you re "Lou Knee"? >> Do any of the others post to URCM?  Too boring there is it, so they >> have to start stirring it here? > > The friends who were asking me were real life friends - not virtual > friends.

But I know you've met Chapman before, and so may consider him a "real life friend". Can you confirm that he wasn't one of the people concerned? Can you confirm that none of them post here or to URCM?

> I was more than a little embarrassed that they saw my > comments about a mutual friend and cycle campaigner who died recently, > and the obnoxious replies.

I can somewhat understand that, but I'm still not quite sure what they were doing reading this newsgroup, and how they are able to identify the "trolls" unless they regularly do so (unless they call anyone with particular opinions "trolls", not that anyone would ever do such a thing). Perhaps they were searching for discussions on Barry Mason, but perhaps they lurk, or even post, regularly.

>> In any case, now that you've revealed who you really are, is there any >> point in continuing to post with an alias? Go on, please: we want big >> old cuddly "Tom Crispin" back. > > I'm still the same man.

Oh go on. Go on, go on, go on. Please, please be "Tom Crispin" again. Clearly you see merit in engaging with what these people call "trolls"; it's your life and you should be able to reply to who you choose, without being ashamed or trying to hide it. Surely the best solution would be to determine your (no doubt good) reasons for engaging with "trolls" (i.e. people with "banned" opinions), and have those reasons ready to give anyone else who criticises you for associating with the "wrong sort".

Anyway, if the people concerned regularly read this group then they'll know who "Bertie Wooster" is anyway; if they don't regularly read it then what's the problem?