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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder.news-service.com!69.16.177.242.MISMATCH!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe23.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cars pulling out of junctions Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:52:48 +0000 References:  <1i0exl19dmo30$.zax26vx739a3.dlg@40tude.net> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1i0exl19dmo30$.zax26vx739a3.dlg@40tude.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.23.23.138 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe23.ams2 1235073183 82.23.23.138 (Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:53:03 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:53:03 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 2566 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:686408

_ wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:20:59 GMT, Brown Cat wrote: > >> Twice in as many as two days I've joined a roundabout and the cars before >> the junction before has jolted forward forcing me to brake to avoid a >> collision. But they stop before reaching a point where they would have >> hit me. Today after it happened I looked at the driver and he was just >> looking straight ahead so he must have seen me. >> >> It just feels like some motorists like playing this game where they try >> to spook the cyclist. Anyone else find this sometimes happens? > > Hanlon's razor applies.

Coming away from Alton Towers this afternoon I passed a Give Way junction on the right where a queue of vehicles was waiting. First car had a cyclist alongside him, nearest the curb. 40mph limit, and as I approached the cyclist pulled out to turn right into my path, was wobbling as he built up momentum from a standstill, and left me no room to pass him without crossing the centre line - couldn't do that as traffic was coming the other way. Only thing to do was stamp on middle pedal. The point I was making was, if the car driver (with an acceleration ability several orders of magnitude more than a bike) thought there was insufficient room to pull out in front of me, why did the cretinous cyclist think he'd be okay? If he'd been right in the gutter that might have worked, with me having room to pass him still in my lane, but by not doing that he left me with no alternative but to jam the brakes on to avoid him.