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On Mar 12, 11:59=A0pm, Clive George  wrote: > > Yes, it's far more important to chuck them out now that they appear to > be moderating in the way you and others would like them to, than to > appear graceful in victory.

You're being ridiculous now.

> You've got your way on moderation. The poll went your way. Why the fuck > are you complaining?

Where is the "moderators"' unequivocal declaration that they will now moderate fairly with regards to Matt B?

Where is the unbanning of Judith and me?

Why are the moderators still taking ages to answer simple questions (when they do so at all), and then providing only incomplete and unhelpful "answers"?

"Useless and evasive" is about the size of it. I get the overwhelming feeling that you want things to carry on as before (which you've always supported after all), and you're only saying "See how things go now and then object if they don't go how you want them to" because you're trying to further delay, and hopefully stop, any real remedial action from being taken. The least you could do is be honest about that, but I suppose if you're angling for Jackson to give you a "moderator" position then you have to demonstrate that you're sufficiently slippery and determined for unfair "moderation" to continue no matter how much bullshitting that takes.

I think everyone is now convinced that things are not truly going to improve unless Jackson and his supporters are removed. People like you, Chapman and Lee may not want things to change, but the consensus (whatever some might say) is that things should change, and it has now passed the stage where anyone is going to be fobbed off and fall yet again for statements like "You've got your way, now they're going to moderate the way you want them to". No, they're not, we all know they've got no intention of doing so, and so they need to go (which they would sooner do than moderate fairly, which would be directly contrary to why Jackson started URCM). Why not just admit that you were happy with how things *were*, you want them to continue to be that way, and that's why you want Jackson et al to stay, and you don't really give a shit what the majority of uk.* want because *you're* happy with your private anti-motorist club and nothing else matters?