Nuxx:D364a6b6-5ce7-489d-8411-e62ca6212dbe@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving Subject: Re: To Those who Believe that "The Law is The Law" Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT) References: <2675ea80-9d20-4826-97f5-6de29b851e46@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Lines: 43 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.209.43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246908588 23364 127.0.0.1 (6 Jul 2009 19:29:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.209.43; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3341 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:715213

On Jul 6, 6:35=A0am, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > Do you believe that motorists and/or cyclists should be prosecuted for > going to the right of the left-hand "keep left" sign in this picture? > > http://www.spod.org/~allyg/tmpimages/skeldergate.jpg > > 1. Yes, they should. =A0By law, motorists must make a U-turn. =A0Cyclists > must either U-turn, turn left, or dismount and temporarily become > pedestrians. =A0Since it is possible to stay within the law here, road > users should do so. > > 2. Motorists should be; cyclists shouldn't be, since they're using a > morally superior form of transport. > > 3. Cyclists should be; motorists shouldn't be. =A0[I put this in for the > sake of completeness; I'm sure no-one thinks it.] > > 4. Neither motorists nor cyclists should be prosecuted. =A0Common sense > clearly indicates that the left-hand "keep left" sign is a mistake, > and is only intended to apply to cyclists who are turning left. =A0It is > more important to determine what the intention behind a sign/ > restriction is than it is to blindly and robotically obey every sign/ > restriction without applying any intelligence whatsoever. > > 5. Something else (please state).

The image can now be found at:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8219/skeldergate.jpg

The person who was originally hosting the image decided to take it down when he saw that I'd linked to it, even though he had linked to it from another recent thread on URC. This is an excellent demonstration of how petty, spiteful and eager to censor certain people's opinions many of the URC "regulars" are, and the real reason for the problems that URC is having at the moment. If the image had been linked to by someone with the "right" opinions instead of me, it would not have been taken down.

Anyway, I had a local copy of the image, so people will still be able to follow this discussion despite the best efforts of the person concerned (although of course his original link is still broken...way to go).