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On Mar 13, 11:59=A0am, "Simon Mason"  wrote: > Well I'll be blowed! > > http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zletter.jpg

It's more than balanced out by the utter dickhead who wrote the other letter. I'm surprised he isn't a regular here; after all, he has the two prerequisites, namely hating motorists and being completely wrong and irrational about pretty much everything. (Drink drivers cause fewer accidents than "speeders"? That's a really fuckwitted thing to say, even by the standards of this group.)

I don't think anyone seriously thinks a 50mph NSL will improve safety. As usual the only people who want it are those who want to piss off drivers, whatever the cost in terms of the economy and fatalities. If cyclists want to be given more space and passed more slowly, isn't it better to teach drivers to do that whatever the limit, rather than forcing them to drive far below a safe speed every single metre of the way?

Making drivers go slower than is reasonable is proven to make things more dangerous, and not less. Anyone who really cared about safety wouldn't pretend otherwise.