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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!aotearoa.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!feed.xsnews.nl!border-3.ams.xsnews.nl!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!212.27.60.9.MISMATCH!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Re: 1st Draft - urcm FAQ Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:55:42 +0100 References:   Lines: 31 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 171db9d3.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=b;[ocK64A49XKni2f, invalid@2mm.org.uk says... > > Do you want to contribute to improving things ?

Do you then admit that things need improving? What things exactly? Does it bother you that URCM is getting such an unprecented amount of negative coverage on UNNM (the majority of which is not from those who you can conveniently dismiss as "trolls")?

> Or do you just want to throw tin-tacs on the road ?

What do you suggest? Sadly you lot don't exactly seem receptive to attempts to improve the group. There's the feeling that you know perfectly well that the group isn't being run as it should, but you all prefer it that way, so you're just going to try to keep it that way while paying minimal lip service to the idea that you care about the charter etc.

But as many others have said, you can have your private club where opinions, facts and people you don't like can be banned with no explanation, *and* you can be open about such policies...you just can't have that club as a newsgroup. To press ahead anyway and misuse the uk.rec.cycling.moderated "slot" in this way denotes exceptional arrogance, selfishness and also probably a wish to stop anyone else from "taking" uk.rec.cycling.moderated instead (and, almost certainly, doing a better job).

We've all seen quite enough now to know that the group isn't going to improve significantly with the "moderation" panel as it is. *Please* can someone who's someone do something, if only for the general good of uk*? How bad does it have to get first?