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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!s31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Evening Standard bum gravy. Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <246b22f1-759e-411f-afdc-5049619d147d@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>         <4caf0da7-a2bc-4836-839d-d863d8665892@o14g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 41 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.208.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1241616063 17990 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2009 13:21:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.208.50; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3567 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:699718

On May 6, 11:17=A0am, "mileburner"  wrote: > Nuxx Bar wrote: > > On May 6, 9:51 am, "mileburner"  wrote: > > >> They do not "artificially restrict" the space. They *do* actually > >> restrict the space. That means that cars take up even *more* of the > >> available space. > > > But the point is that restricting the space is a deliberate act, and > > therefore you can hardly blame the cars for the resulting situation, > > and claim that it's a reason why drivers should be bullied off the > > roads. > > Don't be such a BGB.

Are you a homophobe then? Robertson and Chapman are homophobes as well. So it seems that an irrational intolerance of cars and an irrational intolerance of gay people go hand in hand.

> Everyone gets hacked off with traffic, even the drivers > who sit in the jams.

Actually I don't get particularly hacked off with congestion which no- one can help. What I do get annoyed with is avoidable congestion, caused either by meddling authorities with their anti-motorist measures, selfish, self-righteous, control freak motorists who go too slowly and cause queues and/or sit in the wrong lane, or blatantly inadequate road-building (please don't wheel out the standard, baseless car-hater's retort of "We can't build our way out of congestion because new roadspace just fills up with traffic"; it's TOTAL crap and everyone knows it).

> Get rid of the cars and you get rid of the traffic. > Everyone is then happy.

Err, except the huge number of people who need their cars because there is no other practical way of getting where they're going. While car-haters would doubtless like to pretend that no motorist needs to drive, and people only choose to drive because they're selfish, lazy and irresponsible, this is so obviously rubbish that it shouldn't even need saying.