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On Feb 11, 9:02 pm, spindrift  wrote: > On 11 Feb, 20:36, dkahn400  wrote: > > > On Feb 11, 7:44 pm, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > > They won't let us drive wherever and whenever we like at any speed and > > > > in any manner we like in any vehicle we might want to! Bastards! > > > > And people say that I'm a troll. > > > I think people assumed you meant anti-motorist measures that were > > actually in force, but of course there aren't any. If you mean all > > possible anti-motorist measures then I am happy to go on record and > > say that I am utterly opposed to arbitrary machine gunning of > > motorists. Any more? > > > -- > > Dave... > > Tell us what's bothering you nuxxy, we're listening, we care. > > I to don't think we should hoy bricks at speeding drivers. > > Do we have to list every possible assault on motorists or will tell us > what you mean? > > Nuxxy, Smith was basically anti- vulnerable road user. Check out his > cycling section of the forum- it's one consisting mainly of "jokes" > about dead cyclists from that website's most prolific poster's after > Smith himself. That's not a spoof, those pages, they are 90% the > witterings of the same freaks who sent emails to Future Staff and > issued threats against people who criticised Smith. It's a dark > glimpse at a mad world. One chap in Oxfordshire I think began a > campaign to slow traffic through his village. Safespeed posters > tracked down his home address, phone number and name and published > them on the forum. What I mean is, not only did Smith refuse to allow > his deranged scribbles to be studied by anyone outside his nodding-dog > forum, he actually encouraged and facilitated the harrassment of > people who thought he was misguided. Much as you are doing now, saying > someone is mentally ill just because you disagree with them is hardly > the British way old boy.

Yep, you're a vile twisted little gnome all right. Is there anything (original and unquoted) on any of the Safe Speed pages which you would say you agreed with? If so, please say which bits. I will then take some of the bits that you supposedly don't agree with and ask you why you don't agree with them. It will become pretty clear pretty quickly that you cannot argue with the logic and the facts, and that there are only about four bits from the whole site that you can even pretend to take issue with. Which is a classic tactic of the irrational motorist- hating trolls when "analysing" an opponent's text: ignore the 99+% that you can't argue with (because you know it's absolutely right) and pick on the rest as if that represents some kind of victory for you. It's an underhand and all-too-familiar approach.

Why don't you give credit where credit's due, and admit that most of the site is correct, free from political interference and helpful to the safety of all road users? Would it really kill you to be a bit more realistic and a bit less juvenile and "I'm not going to give the site any credit whatsoever because I hate Safe Speed" about the whole thing? Shouldn't we all be pulling together and trying to achieve the same goals? Surely a fact is a fact whoever discovered it, and we should all be pooling our knowledge?

If you claim not to agree with a single (original and unquoted) word on Safe Speed, doesn't that rather indicate that you simply argue with everything there for the sake of it? Why would that be? Is it because they state that the best way of making the roads safer is not to bully, control, restrict, punish and enforce petty technical offences against motorists, and you simply cannot have that? Does the fact that you know that Safe Speed are right about that (and pretty much everything else) make you all the more venomous, vitriolic and illogical in your rabid campaign against them? I wonder why you would have such a problem with anyone campaigning against the needless punishment of motorists. I just can't imagine.

It must be difficult for you being the Internet's number one motorist- hating freak, especially when you seem to have an identity crisis regarding the "motorist-hating" bit. You really are a cretinous, lying, tedious fucktard of the highest order. Quite frankly, and I don't speak for Safe Speed or anyone else here, if I was in any doubt whatsoever as to the non-existence of God or some other good influence "up there", such doubt has been extinguished by the fact that it was Paul Smith who passed away and not you. Although because he was a decent human being, you can be sure that he would have expressed his genuine condolences if any of his opponents had died, which is more than you could muster for him (not that I was the slightest bit surprised at your incredibly callous reaction, particularly the oh-so- predictable mention of 8-year-old deleted web pages). He was in no way the monster that you have so often made him out to be. You, on the other hand, are more of a monster than anyone else I've ever come across. Fuck you, you motorist-hating, people-hating, lying, insincere, pathetic, cowardly, misanthropic little turd.