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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:31:58 +0100, Rob Morley  wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:05:36 +0100 >Chapman Is A Liar  wrote: > >> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk:8080/web/public.nsf/documents/mini-faq-cagers >> >> Look! Chapman admits to hating motorists on that page! > >So you're too stupid to realise that page was written in a satirical >vein? It doesn't surprise me.

All the standard motorist-haters' evasive ploys are coming out at the moment, aren't they? Here we have #295: "Oh shit, one of us has admitted something that we didn't want to...let's say it was a 'joke' and hope that people swallow it".

1. There's nothing *remotely* funny about that page. 2. I don't think there's anything satirical about "vehemently anti-motorist". 3. I don't think there's anything satirical about "cagers" and "we hate them". 4. I don't think there's anything satirical about the carefully selected and presented motorist-hating figures. 5. I don't think there's anything satirical about the whinging about a driver supposedly receiving a sentence that was too light (the subtext being "He should have been punished more strictly than someone who accidentally killed someone in a non-motoring-related manner would have been, since he was selfish and reckless enough to be driving in the first place"...actually pretty much everything that Crapman says has a highly unpleasant, prejudiced and hateful anti-motorist subtext). 6. I don't think there's anything satirical about the anti-motorist bollocks in the last paragraph (which basically says "It's annoying that we can't spout our anti-motorist bollocks when there are normal people around, since they don't share our view that all drivers are irresponsible, selfish scumbags who are always in the wrong, and all cyclists are morally superior and perfect." 7. I don't think there's anything satirical about *anything* on that page, except for the "suggested punishments" that it links to.

The whole page illustrates pretty well how much Crapman hates *every single motorist* except himself, though of course he hates motorists much more than he admits there, and he doesn't admit explicitly on there that he only supports speed cameras because they discourage motorists from driving, and he couldn't give a Flying Monkey whether they save lives or kill people.

Please point out which parts you believe are satirical, and what evidence you have that such beliefs are not just wishful thinking (as you and the other motorist-haters seem *extremely* reluctant to say anything against Crapman, despite surely knowing in reality just what a complete bastard he is, and just how absurd the idea that he cares about other people's safety really is).