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On Aug 6, 11:31=A0pm, Squashme  wrote: > On 6 Aug, 15:38, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 2:08 pm, Squashme  wrote: > > > > On 6 Aug, 13:55, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 11:23 am, judith  wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:13:32 +0100, "Brian Robertson" > > > > > >  wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >We don't hate cars. We hate you. > > > > > > >Brian. > > > > > > What a prat =A0- leaves in 120 odd lines to sum up his intellect = in two > > > > > sentences. > > > > > I guess that if they didn't do that kind of thing, people like him > > > > wouldn't be trolls. =A0There's simply no reasoning with them. =A0I = could > > > > come on here and post irrefutable proof that cameras cost lives, an= d > > > > the trolls would simply reply with generalised abuse. > > > > Please post the irrefutable proof. > > > In the same way that there's no irrefutable proof that God doesn't > > exist, there's none that cameras cost lives. =A0But you can be pretty > > certain of both. > > So when you wrote "I could come on here and post irrefutable proof > that cameras cost lives", that wasn't literally true?

That's not what I meant. I meant "If I came on here and posted irrefutable proof then...". Admittedly it was ambiguously phrased, but trust Crapman and the other trolls to pretend not to know what I actually meant (although I accept that you really didn't know).

Crapman in particular is such an odious little creep, and employs such deliberately disingenuous "debating" tactics *non-stop* when talking about anti-motorist policies like cameras, that it's very worrying that he isn't disowned by everyone else (even those who, like him, support cameras despite knowing that they kill people). Ask him an awkward question and he won't answer it. Make an awkward true statement and he'll pretend not to understand, or do his best to twist it round, or try to distract with a generalised insult. Win an argument with him and again, he'll just insult you rather than conceding the point. And so on and so forth, every single time bar none.

that no-one can possibly think that he actually believes what he is saying, otherwise he wouldn't need to employ dodgy tactics to such an extent. No wonder he's been banned from every forum. He makes it his stated opinion on any transport-related matter, and he makes it impossible because he knows that he hasn't got a hope of winning the debate by playing fair.
 * Again* and *again* he does exactly the same things, to the extent
 * literally impossible* to have a debate with him if you disagree with

If we could eliminate the Crapmans of the world from the gene pool, it would be of massive benefit to humanity. He is utterly beneath contempt.