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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!y38g2000vbl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9a8277f1-6cf2-4df5-afaf-9e85ecac61e8@y38g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:17:52 -0700 (PDT) References:        <1j1tf12.v44mld1vw287bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> Lines: 29 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245867473 334 127.0.0.1 (24 Jun 2009 18:17:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y38g2000vbl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3085 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:53759 uk.rec.cycling:5437

On Jun 24, 12:45=A0pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > wafflycat  wrote: > > Same here. Even with kill-files of the obvious trolls, it was the troll= s' > > nym-shifting and those who for some odd reason seem to think that enter= ing > > dialogue with a troll is going to produce rational discussion that has > > ruined the group. > > I beg to differ. What ruined the group was accepting the militant > cyclists as regulars and then adopting their views. URC became a cycling > madrasah, indoctrinating the faithfull in the "one true path" and where > any voice of dissent was howled down by the massed loons.

Spot on.

> I'm going to be amused to see what happens in the moderated group.

It will be amusing to see the clique's thinly-veiled efforts at censorship fail miserably and backfire, certainly. But it'll be sad that it will kill off URC for good, when we'll all know that if the regulars had just bitten the bullet and set about getting rid of the "Motorists are scum and anyone who says otherwise is a troll" nonsense, then URC would have turned into the group that *everyone* wanted (well, everyone except the car-haters who are hijacking and abusing the cause of cycling to its detriment because they're too pathetic to even admit to being anti-motorist, and I think we can all do without them, especially since they are the root cause of all the problems in URC).