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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe18.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclist hits granny in pavement crash in Brighton Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:55 +0000 References:            <100pn4tfquu9schc04vu1ubg83ef59jgvv@4ax.com> Lines: 32 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <100pn4tfquu9schc04vu1ubg83ef59jgvv@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe18.ams2 1232899683 82.21.204.127 (Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:08:03 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:08:03 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3405 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:683970

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:39:16 -0000, "pk"  said > in : > >>> Which does not actually change the documented fact that pedestrians >>> are far more likely to be injured on the footway by motorists than >>> cyclists. > >> I think the fact that is documented it the number of reported injuries not >> the number of injuries per se, there is after all a legal duty to report >> motor accident causing injury there will be close to 100% reporting of car >> related injuries but a far lower proportion of the minor cycle/pedestrian >> collisions will be reported. > > Reporting of injuries does indeed vary according to severity and > cause. Nearly all fatalities, and most serious injuries, are > recorded. Trivial injuries are mostly unreported, we can only infer > things form the relative prevalence of those injuries which are > reported. For example, we know that half of all injury admissions > to hospital are due to simple trips and falls, and many of these are > on footways. My council says that the major cause of footway trips > is damage to the footways by motor vehicle encroachment. > > probably better, though, to stick with the figures we do have rather > than suppositions. And also probably better to look to the causes > and how they might be fixed, rather than advocating draconian > responses to the symptoms. Especially since the symptom is, in many > cases, entirely legal now. > BWAHAHAHAHAHAA! Ah shit, sorry, I normally try and not rise to Chapmans idiocy but this time I couldn't resist. Now he wants to blame cars for incidents on the pavement even when they're not *there*!!!