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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <47651a91-13a9-4b90-83b3-6acfe612c7bf@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Do you feel like biking makes you a loser? Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 01:03:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <20eb0896-9aa2-4e72-a532-74fad808fdf5@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Lines: 15 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.138.49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1215245005 645 127.0.0.1 (5 Jul 2008 08:03:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.138.49; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; 	.NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; 	InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2322 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:655395

Unfortunately, the most vocal cyclists tend to be the nutters such as Spindrift, who tarnish the reputation of all cyclists. The majority of cyclists are perfectly reasonable, but if they want to deal with the image problem that cyclists have, they have to publicly disown the anti-motorist, red light-jumping, inconsiderate, offensive buffoons who claim to represent cyclists in general. Once cyclists have a reputation for riding considerately, and campaigning for pro-cyclist rather than anti-motorist measures, they will get the treatment that they deserve. But at the moment, it's a case of doing as you would be done by: while cyclists have a reputation for being tossers towards other road users, other road users (including planners etc) aren't going to be particularly well-disposed towards cyclists. It's just the way life works.

You know I'm right, and anyone flaming me will just prove my point.