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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!out01b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in02.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!postnews.google.com!v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <17b4149a-db55-4e52-ae25-ce71c4980668@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Paul Smith Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:07:00 -0800 (PST) References:       <77029a0d-b0fc-4f48-a170-d2bb27842d97@o42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1i9a1bs.do7gev1usz6l9N%notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com> <17041032-21f6-4baf-9fef-93709945b8b2@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i9bupi.11x539y1uskcfaN%notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com> Lines: 51 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.163.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1198001221 13549 127.0.0.1 (18 Dec 2007 18:07:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.163.51; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4174 X-Original-Bytes: 4131 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:633113

On Dec 18, 5:43 pm, notmyaddress.1.ekulnam...@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) wrote: > Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > On Dec 17, 5:48 pm, notmyaddress.1.ekulnam...@wronghead.com (Ekul > > Namsob) wrote: > > > Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > Every driver speeds. > > > > Wrong. > > > Right. EVERY regular licensed car/motorbike/van/lorry/bus driver > > speeds at least four times every three years, > > Have you any evidence for that?

You're seriously telling me that ANY regular, remotely competent driver doesn't exceed the speed limit at least four times every three years? Do you honestly believe that? Are you telling me that every time they go from a 30mph zone into a NSL, they don't start accelerating over 30mph until they've passed the sign? That when they go from a NSL to 30mph, they're already completely within the 30mph limit as they pass the sign? That they do this flawlessly, time and time again, without slipping up once by so much as 0.1mph? That when they're in a unnecessary loony anti-car 20mph zone, they stay entirely within it at all times, even if it's in the small hours? Do you think my scenario or yours is more likely, considering that we're dealing with humans here?

> > You're only saying "wrong" because the truth shows how ridiculous and > > unnecessary speed cameras are. > > Telepathy is not your strong point.

Well I don't know why else you would say something that was so obviously ludicrous.

> > And you don't want to admit that, because you LIKE cameras, either because > > they make drivers suffer just for driving normally, or because you work > > for a scamera partnership or similar. > > Where have I suggested I like cameras? I have actually suggested that I > prefer genuine coppers. Indeed, I suspect a genuine copper would not > have given me a 60 pound fine, three points and a consequently higher > insurance premium when I was caught speeding on the A34 a little while > ago.

I tend to find that people who post in cycling forums/groups and make the ridiculous assertion that "all drivers speed" is wrong are camera supporters. If you're genuinely not then I apologise. But you're still dead wrong about all drivers speeding, and therefore your whole philosophy on speeding is likely to be lacking.