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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!news.musoftware.de!wum.musoftware.de!feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!94.232.116.15.MISMATCH!ramfeed-1.ams.xsnews.nl!feed.xsnews.nl!border-4.ams.xsnews.nl!69.16.177.242.MISMATCH!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe07.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4K4xl.143751$q45.132433@newsfe07.ams2> From: _  Newsgroups: uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclists going through red traffic lights Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:04:49 +0000 References: <72h0pkFpshmdU1@mid.individual.net> <81da1a72-951c-4473-99db-d16f48840e19@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>  <568f6f67-f856-4720-ad59-c45abbc27ad1@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>     Lines: 39 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.12.82.202 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe07.ams2 1237637120 86.12.82.202 (Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:05:20 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:05:20 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3776 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690437

Peter Grange wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:06:45 +0000, _  wrote: > >> Peter Grange wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:24:46 -0000, "ThePunisher" >>>  wrote: >>> >>>> "Doug"  wrote in message >>>> news:568f6f67-f856-4720-ad59-c45abbc27ad1@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>>>> The other point he seemed to make was that it causes frustration FROM >>>>> drivers, implying that the drivers might react, presumably by the >>>>> common practice of ramming or otherwise intimidating cyclists at slow >>>>> speeds. >>>> Why not? I consider cyclists who have ridden through red lights as fair >>>> game, they want to risk their lives lets see how far they want to go. >>> "The Punisher". That's a stunning sig. Impress the other kids in the >>> nursery did it? >> Damn, you cant help but laugh, can you? The psycholist nobheads love to >> taunt the 'cagers', but flip the tables and they start coming out with >> pathetic one-liners like the one above and the other reply! > > The pathetic one is the one who has to hide behind an infantile name > like "ThePunisher", and then makes veiled threats about cyclists being > "fair game". I guess if a driver of an 18-wheeler described motorists > as "fair game" he'd find that funny too. Takes all types I guess. > (Stupid as "ThePunisher" is as a name, at least he can think of one, > so he's one up on you).

Open your eyes to the transgressions of your own, and I'd place a bet that you'd notice a steep decline in the "veiled threats" you find so offensive. As has been said many times by many different posters here, whenever a car drivers offences are mentioned there is universal condemnation from ALL parties, but when a cyclist offence is brought up only the motorists will criticise it while the URC'ers come out with juvenile crap like "well what you do is worse". Every time you criticise cagers while ignoring bike offences you perpetuate posts like The Punishers, above. He is simply expressing the irritation caused to cagers, not just by the RLJ in the first place, but by the blanket refusal of the whole cycling fraternity to join him in condemning it.