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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!txtfeed2.tudelft.nl!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e1b2f48$0$2482$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another attack on a cyclist. Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:13:43 +0100 References: <3dc014cb-a8cd-457d-9142-4dfbe0edd4c4@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <3uae171jj1gi6e4k1kr93281majh2p23oh@4ax.com> <63e366a6-a033-42cb-a4f8-947f00dd487c@q1g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>    <60d6ab2c-502c-40b7-98be-2d5616f79518@bl1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4e1aa14e$0$2492$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> <69a4fcd7-f2ea-4f39-9324-ce5d55c7e05a@z14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Lines: 52 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69a4fcd7-f2ea-4f39-9324-ce5d55c7e05a@z14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: c742aa25.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=BS85iead]V940h On Jul 11, 8:07 am, Nuxx Bar  wrote: >  Such offensive people no doubt see helmet >> cams as a great weapon and a "valuable" way of getting innocent >> motorists into trouble. > > "Innocent" motorists cannot get into trouble any more than a driver > who is keeping within the speed limit can get into trouble if the road > happens to be festooned with safety cameras. > > That's because they are, er, innocent.

Well that wasn't a very good reply, was it?

Imagine this scenario. A male (aren't they all?) psycholist with a helmet cam stupidly cycles across the road right in front of a male motorist, forcing him to emergency stop. The motorist says to the psycholist "Are you trying to kill yourself?" The psycholist starts foaming at the mouth and screeching obscenities, the way that psycholists automatically do when anyone dares to challenge them while they're "saving the planet" and self-righteously being better than everyone else on their bike.

The psycholist, being a coward, goes round to the passenger side and starts slapping around the driver's girlfriend. The driver gets out and comes round. The psycholist stops attacking the woman just as driver is about to get to where he is. The driver punches the psycholist to protect himself and his girlfriend. The psycholist pretends to be frightened and gets on his bike and cycles off.

The psycholist then hands the helmet cam footage to the police, but only the bit from just after he stopped attacking the woman and just before the driver punched him. The psycholist says to the police that he "wasn't filming" before this and that the driver had cut him up and then got out of his car and punched him after the psycholist shouted "Please don't do that, you really scared poor little me". The psycholist, being a lying car-hating piece of shit who thinks that "anything goes" when it comes to persecuting the motorist scum, even perjures himself in court by repeating the same pack of lies, and gets one or two of his psycholist mates to back him up and say they've conveniently seen the whole thing.

The driver, backed up by his girlfriend, tells his side of the story (i.e. the truth). The judge, having seen lying psycholists before, says that he is inclined to believe the driver, finds in his favour, and mandates that in all subsequent similar cases, the cyclist must show footage of at least a minute's length both before and after the incident to establish context and show that they're not a lying car-hating psycholist cnut.

(Sadly, the last paragraph is wishful thinking, but other than that, I hope you'll see the excellent and pertinent point that I'm making.)