Nuxx:3298778d-9d0c-4eb2-a17f-fa6397de0288@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3298778d-9d0c-4eb2-a17f-fa6397de0288@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Chapman: One Of Many Ridiculous Statements Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <2f4b8afb-2fce-4038-b8f3-d90276025c78@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>  <471d7c49-631d-4817-a8c0-3a8fe3803125@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <8gm094hf3bidscd9ksqge0mrma4mq2fg26@4ax.com> Lines: 51 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.145.93 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217429304 11461 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2008 14:48:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.145.93; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3958 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:659724

On Jul 30, 1:13=A0pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:00:32 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar >  said in > <471d7c49-631d-4817-a8c0-3a8fe3803...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>: > > >Well, at least you admit that without "solely", the statement is > >incorrect. =A0I assume you'll be making the required changes on your > >Site Of Hate? =A0(Not that it would be much better with "solely", but > >it's a start.) > > Um, no, not incorrect, merely incomplete, and having no actual > bearing on the undoubted truth of the reasoning offered, being > "first, the driver is not impartial - any benefit from going faster > accrues to them, and most of the danger accrues to others; and > second, most drivers overestimate their skill."

As I said, your insinuation that drivers in general are prepared to constantly put others at risk just to get there quicker is yet more evidence that you have a prejudice against motorists in general.

> Actually most drivers appear to overestimate their skill by a > significant margin.

Evidence? None? What a surprise. It's just another negative thing about motorists that you choose to assume.

> Oh, and you fail again - you are looking at the old version of the > site, the content has already changed. =A0But don't worry, we don't > expect you to start doing things like basic fact checking, that > would be wholly out of character.

Actually, I did try to find a "current" version of the quoted phrase, but there wasn't one. I'm glad that you've realised that it was a mistake and not put it on the new version of the Site Of Hate (which purports to be a wiki but only actually has you, and maybe one or two other motorist-hating trolls, editing it...if you don't hate motorists, why not let pro-motorist people edit the site as well?)

Talking of which, you still haven't explained why you complain about "censorship" of forum posters on Safe Speed (on which moderator intervention is very rare and fully justified when it does happen), despite the fact that you completely censor any dissent (no matter whether it's correct) on your site. Why do you not have a policy that you will change anything on your site that is shown to be incorrect? Is it because you don't care whether it's correct, as long as it's anti-motorist enough? Is it because you couldn't care less whether cameras actually saved lives, and if someone showed you incontrovertible proof that cameras cost lives, your support of them would continue unabated?

Guy Cuthbertson