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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Passing stationary / parked cars Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:04:46 -0700 (PDT) References:   <41da03e9-5ba1-4187-8e97-923f76c9a617@l32g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>  <7btu1oF243rk9U3@mid.individual.net>  <7btunrF24fqurU1@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 52 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.209.43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247407487 8509 127.0.0.1 (12 Jul 2009 14:04:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.209.43; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4078 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:716662

On Jul 12, 12:20=A0pm, "mileburner"  wrote: > Bod wrote: > > mileburner wrote: > >> Bod wrote: > >>>> It's because car drivers are so desparate to get one car ahead that > >>>> they don't stop to T H I N K ! about what they are doing. > > >>> I do,so don't tar every car driver with the same brush.I also > >>> cycle,so I know the score. > > >> So do I. I drive too. > > >> As a peer group, drivers are a bunch of twats. Get used to it. It > >> aint gonna change in the near future :-( > > > If you drive too,then that includes you too. ;-) > > You may include me if you wish. I try very hard as a driver to not be one= of > those twats. Most drivers don't :-(

Complete bollocks, and just shows that you're an other motorist- hater. I would say that most drivers are perfectly considerate and safe, it's just that one tends to remember the few that aren't. If you really thought "most drivers were twats" then you'd think twice before going *anywhere*, such was the risk that you thought you were taking.

As for being "desperate to get one car ahead", if anything I'd say that people don't overtake enough. When there's some idiot going at 35mph in an NSL with 10 cars behind him, and the drivers directly behind him don't overtake even when it's safe to do so, it can be rather frustrating, especially when those drivers object to being overtaken themselves by those further behind...why oh why are they so determined for everyone to sit obediently in the "queue" at 35mph? I think it's probably a British thing, but it causes a hell of a lot of unnecessary irritation, which of course can ultimately lead to accidents. If you're behind someone who's going slowly on an out-of- town road, you should either overtake or do all you can to assist those who wish to overtake you.

Of course the best solution would be for people to go at a reasonable speed in the first place...anyone who regularly goes at 35mph when it's safe/legal to go at 60mph is either underskilled, underconfident or doing it deliberately to piss people off, none of which are acceptable IMV. And if one must do that kind of speed then one should pull over regularly to let people past. It only takes around 5% of drivers to go at 35mph for miles without pulling over to mean that (in busy times) pretty much everyone has to do that speed, especially given the non-overtaking described above. It's all just so unnecessary. Who would want people to be delayed unnecessarily, except car-haters?