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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <91e8ce4f-0d91-46b6-b302-b4a04ac1a780@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Why Do Some People Hate Motorists? Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 08:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 26 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.145.66.20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242486069 15188 127.0.0.1 (16 May 2009 15:01:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.145.66.20; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2646 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:701892

Since this group is so full of those who hate motorists (other than themselves), not all of whom lie about it, I thought it would be interesting to ask them why.

Is it due to a wish for people to be controlled by the state, because they "can't be trusted" to be in charge of a ton of metal, or maybe because it's more difficult to keep tabs on them that way? Is it due to a genuine belief that taking people's cars away would bring more benefits (e.g. fewer road accidents) than disbenefits (e.g. huge costs to the economy and a much poorer standard of living, not to mention people losing their lives for other reasons)? Is it because of "the environment" (I have trouble believing this one, since there are other things which are much worse for the environment than cars which the car-haters don't seem to have a problem with)? Do they see all motoring as being fundamentally antisocial and inconsiderate? Or is it something else?

Perhaps if car-haters were less coy about it, and more forthcoming with their reasons for disliking motorists, they would be less reviled, and therefore would feel less obliged to hide their anti- motorist stance. If you make it entirely obvious that you hate motorists, but refuse to explain why (or even to admit it at all in some cases), it's no wonder you get a lot of people's backs up. Here's your opportunity to win some respect (although not in the case of Chapman or Spindrift, with whom a "secret" loathing of motorists is only a small part of the problem).