Nuxx:2956a6e0-1149-4111-8153-10f5fe1f7aea@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <2956a6e0-1149-4111-8153-10f5fe1f7aea@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Petition Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:43:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <792b3fe2-f375-446e-9e13-3282d9d7334c@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 72 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.217.66 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1213018984 7936 127.0.0.1 (9 Jun 2008 13:43:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.217.66; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4378 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:652424

On Jun 8, 8:04=A0pm, Martin  wrote: > Nuxx Bar wrote: > >http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ban-bicycles/ > > Total 8 signatures, > > : Submitted by Richard Olliffe of Rider Connect > > Apparently the originator did not have the guts to use his own name, > instead he borrowed the name of a Motorcyclist. Typical tactics of your > s*fespeeding group.

If you're referring to Safe Speed, I very much doubt that it was anyone from there. Despite the trolls making out otherwise, I don't think there's anyone who actually hates cyclists on Safe Speed; we have many cyclists, and there's even a cycling forum. The trolls like to make out that there are cyclist-haters on Safe Speed because it's just one more way in which they are trying to play motorists and (reasonable) cyclists off against each other.

But I don't blame the originator for disguising his name. As I said recently, there are more than a few bona fide psychopaths on "cycling" (anti-motorist) groups like these, at least one of whom has made offline threats which have caused someone to evacuate their workplace, so anyone who revealed their real name when they were against bicycles (even as a joke) would be completely mad.

If you don't want people like that to disguise their names, it's probably best to improve the respectability of "cycling" groups, make sure they're exclusively about advocating cycling (as opposed to persecuting motorists), and get the psychopathic element committed. Believe me, you've got a long way to go.

(And as I've said before, "Safespeeding" is a really pathetic jibe, even for the trolls. The implication that speeding can never be safe could only come from someone with a woeful grasp of real road safety and good driving.  It's worrying, frankly.)

> =A0 =A0 =A0* Phil Healey > =A0 =A0 =A0* david J.Leigh > =A0 =A0 =A0* Mark Holland > =A0 =A0 =A0* Ban healthy exercise??? > =A0 =A0 =A0* think the politically correct world is a false utopia-get on = yer > bike! > =A0 =A0 =A0* Dr Adrian V Stokes OBE > =A0 =A0 =A0* Spindrift > > At least 3 of the other 7 are definitely made up.

Which three?

> > "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to to ban the sale and > > use of bicycles. > > > If bicycles were invented now, no sane government would allow them to > > be used. Unprotected bodies, travelling at speed on a 2-wheeled > > vehicle which can be upset by a wet manhole - any official would > > reject this idea out of hand. The only reason we allow bicycles is > > that they have been around for more than a century and we have all got > > used to them. > > > Bicycles are dangerous to all road users, are frequently ridden > > recklessly, and cause a disproportionate number of deaths and serious > > injuries. Their removal would benefit everyone." > > 0/10 for trolling, Smith could have done better, and he is Dead.

Ho ho. You know what, I hope some goth exhumes you when you're six feet under, and batters your corpse with his/her shovel, since you obviously have no respect for the dead. That sentence shows very nicely just what twisted cunts you lot really are.