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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9faf02df-e0b4-4214-b193-cc90f8ea9feb@l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.net.news.config Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:45:52 -0700 (PDT) References:     <1j1tf12.v44mld1vw287bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <3r4545tgik6hiie4r5nreb8uj5cr5nr04e@4ax.com>   <7aoirbF1vfd9gU1@mid.individual.net>  <4dne45hblis605ti3v0nspr51t0g07uh2c@4ax.com>  Lines: 35 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.160.138.240 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246232753 23098 127.0.0.1 (28 Jun 2009 23:45:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.160.138.240; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3502 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:5895 uk.net.news.config:54377

On Jun 28, 5:39=A0pm, Molly Mockford  wrote: > At 13:14:32 on Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Geoff Berrow  > wrote in <4dne45hblis605ti3v0nspr51t0g07u...@4ax.com>: > > >Moderators aren't elected. Moderators are chosen by moderators. =A0You > >should know this. > > I recall from my days on UKVoting that the moderators for > uk.gay-lesbian-bi are elected annually, although I was never the > votetaker for such elections. =A0I also remember that this seemed to caus= e > the group considerable problems, although I cannot remember what those > problems were.

Now that's a group which I'm sure has had genuine trolling problems, with idiotic bigots coming on and shouting homophobic abuse. They had a real trolling problem so they used moderation to deal with it, quite legitimately.

So it's an insult to groups like that, and the real problems they've faced, when wankers from groups like URC decide that they're going to abuse the system and pretend they've got a trolling problem as well when really they just want to censor people who speak awkward truths. Like those who report rape falsely, such flagrant and deliberate abuse just makes things harder for real victims of rape/trolling, and is incredibly selfish and completely unacceptable.

I've never been a regular in a newsgroup which had been genuinely trolled so much that it had needed to resort to an RFD for moderation, but if I had been, this "moderation" sham (which is actually just censorship) would make me really angry. As it is, it just makes me sick to the stomach how shameless some people are about lying and abusing the system just so they can get what they want. Do such people have no conscience?