Nuxx:6cb24a6d-ef68-48eb-ac12-8031185dab3d@l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <6cb24a6d-ef68-48eb-ac12-8031185dab3d@l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Ignoring the "Trolls" Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:18:49 -0700 (PDT) References:   Lines: 51 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245500329 11890 127.0.0.1 (20 Jun 2009 12:18:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3899 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:710834

On Jun 19, 8:54=A0pm, "Colin Trunt"  wrote: > "Nuxx Bar"  wrote in message > > news:c08a306c-ebe2-4674-ae7d-09eff223da23@t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Over the years I have been a regular on many different forums which > > have suffered from trolling. =A0IME it has always been very easy to get > > people to ignore the trolls, and usually that does the trick and the > > trolls stop posting. > > > Yet some of the regulars here have reported repeatedly trying, and > > failing, to get people to ignore the likes of Judith and me, who are > > referred to by some as "trolls". =A0So why has it proven so difficult t= o > > get people to ignore us? =A0Could it be, just maybe, because we're not > > actually trolls? =A0Could it be that while it's relatively easy to > > ignore what a troll says, because it's provocative, vacuous crap which > > adds nothing to the discussion and just wastes everyone's time, it's > > harder to ignore what Judith and I say, because it *does* actually add > > to the discussion and we repeatedly make very good and interesting > > points which are more than worthy of replies and debate? > > > This group has a real problem with people who wish to believe that > > just because someone disagrees with them on certain subjects, their > > opinions and posts must be worthless and they must be a "troll". =A0Tha= t > > simply isn't the case. =A0Just because you don't like someone, and wish > > to kid yourself and others that they're a "troll" in order to make > > yourself feel better, it doesn't mean that they *are* a "troll", and > > it doesn't mean that you can make people ignore them in the same way > > that you can a real troll. > > > I suggest that these people accept that some people disagree with > > them, and some of those people will post on URC. =A0Wishing that they > > were "trolls" and trying to treat them as such won't really help > > things. =A0Surely it's better to engage with them properly and show the= m > > why they're so wrong (if you *really* believe they're wrong, and you > > don't have some hidden anti-car agenda, in which case you can hardly > > blame anyone but yourself if you feel that that agenda is in danger of > > being exposed). =A0You can't just act as if something's the case simply > > because you'd like it to be. =A0That's what people with mental problems > > do, and other than Spindrift, I don't think anyone here is *that* far > > gone. > > Please don't fee the troll.

If you swap the consonants at the start of your names, it makes "Trolin Cunt". Coincidence?