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Would those who have previously referred to one or more anti-camera posters as "trolls" please list all anti-camera posters who they do
 * not* believe to be trolls?

If you do not do this, I will just have to assume that when you refer to people like me as "trolls", what you actually mean is "all anti-camera posters", and therefore when you say "We shouldn't feed the trolls" or similar, what you actually mean is "We shouldn't debate the validity of speed cameras". Now why would anyone be so keen to suppress debate about the validity of speed cameras, unless of course they knew that they wouldn't be able to win such a debate? And why would they hold a position on cameras which they knew to be indefensible, unless (say) they were holding it for anti-motorist reasons, and merely pretending to hold it for road safety reasons?

So, what do you mean by "troll": do you actually mean "troll", or do you just mean "anti-camera poster"? When I'm accused of being a "troll", am I actually just being referred to as an anti-camera poster (which is fair enough)? One way or another, this thread will determine the answer.