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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <94559bf8-8ede-4999-9983-855b24052f26@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Reasonable? Necessary? You Decide Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:28:40 -0800 (PST) References: <6ea8bd3b-ff2f-4227-98f7-a5e457545b20@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <62bl7rF22ueorU1@mid.individual.net> <62bq2sF22puh2U1@mid.individual.net> Lines: 57 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.165.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1203938920 8703 127.0.0.1 (25 Feb 2008 11:28:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.165.120; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4189 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:641717

On Feb 23, 11:55 pm, "Adam Lea"  wrote: > "Simon Brooke"  wrote in message > > > news:62bl7rF22ueorU1@mid.individual.net... > > > > >> Nuxx Bar wrote: > >> 6. Location: a stretch of rural NSL road with double white lines. > > >> A Cyclist is cycling down the road at 15mph. A Motorist comes up > >> behind the Cyclist having been safely proceeding at the 60mph speed > >> limit, and slows down to 15mph. The Motorist could overtake the > >> Cyclist without crossing the double white lines, but to do so would > >> mean going closer to the Cyclist than would be ideal (since the > >> Cyclist is wobbling somewhat). After checking that there is no > >> oncoming traffic for a sufficient distance, the Motorist briskly > >> overtakes the Cyclist, briefly going around 0.5m over the double white > >> lines to ensure that there is ample space. The Motorist is fined by a > >> policeman who was observing from an unmarked car behind. > > > Lucky to get away with his licence, should have had it taken off him > > permanently. Deliberately endangered the life of both the cyclist and > > oncoming traffic. Personally, I'd shoot the bastard. > > Motorists do this all the time when I am cycling to work. The A29 is good > for 50-60mph along most of its length and I guess that some motorists can't > be bothered to slow down and wait until I have reached the stretch of road > with the broken white line.

And if there aren't any broken white lines for 10 miles? Do you can see that it's safe to nip over the DWL? Would you be prepared to slow down to 10mph or pull over temporarily in such a situation, not because you're "second-class traffic", but because it would be a courteous and considerate thing to do?
 * really* expect a whole line of traffic to go at 15mph even when they

> I am puzzled about the "checking for oncoming traffic for a sufficient > distance" bit by Nuxx Bar. In my experience double white lines are placed in > areas where the sightlines are poor so I'm not sure how the motorist can > check for oncoming traffic for a sufficient distance.

It depends on the DWL. Many are placed with the overtaking of 40mph lorries in mind. It requires significantly less distance to overtake a 15mph cyclist. Also some are placed in villages to "stop people speeding". Again, this doesn't apply with 15mph cyclists.

Thank you for not trolling BTW. (It comes to something when it's actually remarkable *not* to get a trolling reply. How sad that no- one is allowed to come onto urc and even hint at sticking up for the motorist, even when they stick up for cyclists at the same time.  It really does give the lie to claims that the trolls don't hate motorists.  They don't seem to realise that every time they troll they just prove what I've been saying about them.  Those silly, silly trolls.)

Bobby Lightcycles