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Path: num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.k-dsl.de!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Re: The info that the URCM mods didn't want you to see (for Simon Brooke) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:43:52 +0100 References: <884gkdF60tU1@mid.individual.net> Lines: 32 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100619-0, 19/06/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 926f25da.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=YVZWGAJ1>_P1i>g:<=BiJQYjZGX^207P[`, matt.bourke@nospam.london.com says... > > In a recent URCM thread Simon Brooke poured scorn on my suggestion that > with some of the new small cars coming out, that double-occupancy car > travel will almost certainly be more space-efficient than conventional > cycling. > > My two different attempts to reply with further information were blocked > by the moderators[1] with no explanation, and my first request directly > to the moderators for an explanation was ignored, and my second, more > than 24 hours later, was dismissed with the single curt sentence: "No, > we do not wish to expand on the reasons for rejection."

One of the best yet, and one of the clearest indications so far that URCM was set up to protect car-haters from being outdebated and having their true motives exposed:

They don't really dislike cars because of the space they take up.

They don't really dislike cars because they're "dangerous".

They don't really dislike cars because of the "congestion" they cause (remember, these people support measures which *cause* congestion, e.g. unnecessary traffic lights, removal of roadspace, etc).

They dislike cars because they're not part of the socialist utopia that they dream of. Everyone (except them) should be equal; no-one (except them) needs a car to get around. Isn't it funny how those who support socialism always 1) do their best to pretend that they don't really support it (e.g. by specially setting up a newsgroup to stop people showing otherwise) and 2) only ever support it for other people?