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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <417a31c1-cc05-4ec3-83ec-f355afffdade@e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Pre-RFD: uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:41:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <2lc*4xWHs@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>    <3ZCdnYwamYA2C4DXnZ2dnUVZ8t-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Lines: 33 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243460484 9797 127.0.0.1 (27 May 2009 21:41:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 21:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3159 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:704744

On May 27, 8:38=A0pm, Danny Colyer  wrote: > > I'd generally like to avoid serial troll wrestlers in case they were > inclined to let trolls through just to have a bit of fun with them. =A0Tw= o > current posters who are guilty of troll wrestling but who I think would > make good moderators because they seem genuinely keen to educate, so > probably wouldn't be too heavy handed with newbies asking the same old > questions that we've already done to death over and over again (e.g. > helmets) are Peter Clinch and Guy Chapman. =A0I believe Guy's already > stated that he wouldn't have time.

I have already strongly objected to Chapman being a moderator; I also strongly object to Peter Clinch. He is one of the more obvious car- haters and has shown himself to be utterly intolerant of opposing points of view (yes, I keep saying that about people, but that's because it's true. It's a MASSIVE problem in URC.)

And do you *really* think that Chapman would be patient and non-heavy- handed with someone who came on and started threads advocating helmets? Of course not. He'd call them a "troll" the very first time that he replied to them. And it would be the same with anyone who dared to suggest that speed cameras were anything but wonderful, etc. You know it, I know it.

> Also, this time yesterday I thought there was no way I'd want to get > involved, but on reflection I'd be quite happy to put myself forwards. > I've been here continuously for the last 10 years and occasionally > before then. =A0I care about the group and should be well known to the > regulars.

No particular problem with that (just to show that I don't "object to everyone who I disagree with").