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On Apr 7, 2:04 pm, Tony Raven  wrote: > > Did whoever wrote the fact

Don't you mean "FAQ"? Strange typo, or are we using squawk-to-text software?

> I am concerned that urcm will go the same way as urc because the same group > of wreckers have it in their sights

Serious question: who exactly is in this "group of wreckers"? Judith and me, "obviously", but who else? Matt B? Anyone else?

The way you describe us (e.g. "group"), it's as if you think we're constantly coordinating our "wrecking efforts" by email or something. You are paranoid, and credit us with far more cunning planning and organisation than is going on. Judith and I have emailed each other, but only occasionally, and never to "coordinate" or anything like that...it's usually more like "Liked your post about..." or "Have you seen this thread?" Matt B, I suspect, rather looks down his nose at us. So your continued implications that there is some gang of vandals carefully orchestrating their attacks on the poor cyclists are just absurd.

If we are indeed trying to "wreck cycling on Usenet" (which I don't admit for a moment) then we are managing it with effortless ease, and the cyclists (or rather psycholists) must take a large part, probably the lion's share, of the blame for that. They pretty much disrupt and vandalise themselves, by being so wrong about so many things, and therefore so vulnerable to Inconvenient Truths and so touchy about people merely raising topics and stating opinions.

The psycholists are the problem. The "group of wreckers", whoever is supposedly in that group, are merely the scapegoats. Here we are, months and months on from Judith and me being banned from URCM, and the same old problems are still occurring. Mr Raven, you have spouted possibly an unprecedented amount of bullshit in this thread, and you need to wake up and smell the coffee (and get some new voice-to-text software while you're at it...).

And BTW, for someone who supposedly wants a vote (on a proper RFD) as much as I do, you seem remarkably reluctant to actually let it happen....