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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Helmets: The Story So Far Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:24:27 +0100 References:   <7814afa4-2ecc-494d-86e2-d6d0010d2668@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>  <4c13a3d6$0$28008$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> Lines: 38 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100612-0, 12/06/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 79c5fd1c.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=;3=P;cn72eLALLHS9aJHmKnok4Z\, ja@averyjim.myzen.co.uk says... > > Juvenile irrelvant insults seemed quite appropriate IMO. You've been > around long enough to know all of the answers to your questions about > helmets by now so the only conclusion must be that you're fishing.

I'm just making it clear to those who haven't been around as long that most of the fervent anti-helmet bunch have a hidden agenda and couldn't give a stuff about safety, and therefore it's probably not worth trying to reason with them on the subject. You could show them cast iron proof that helmets improve safety and they still wouldn't accept it for the reasons I've already given.

Those who do actually care about safety and support helmets have a right to know if they're up against extremist nutters whose only concern is minimising restrictions on cyclists and maximising restrictions on motorists in order to force modal shift, *whatever* the side effects. Why does it bother you that I'm pointing that out? Do you support the extremists' agenda?

> If > you want to catch something other than a hagfish you might do well to > cast your line elsewhere.

Actually I'm not really into needlessly killing animals, but each to his own.

> Enjoy the rest of the weekend. > > England for the Cup!

Let's hope so. Maybe we'll progress past the quarter-finals this time. As for the bitter Scots et al and their "Anyone But England" nonsense, it does rather remind me of the anti-car crowd in terms of their overwhelming spite and negativity, and their constant determination to halt the progress of others even though such progress has no effect on them whatsoever.