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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!cyclone03.ams.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe14.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Troll Drawings Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:35:44 +0000 References:  <29c7bb99470c4149c487919bdf9e975b@pseudo.borked.net> <%nP1l.2627$tp1.69@newsfe19.ams2>       <222sk4106tmg9itd87v7v7072bm1m2lb72@4ax.com>        <slrngktem0.hg7.ian@acheron.astounding.org.uk> <2Oz3l.39883$_I1.28296@newsfe13.ams2> <slrngkufai.ke3.ian@acheron.astounding.org.uk> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <slrngkufai.ke3.ian@acheron.astounding.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe14.ams2 1229942161 82.21.204.127 (Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:36:01 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:36:01 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 4417 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:828002

Ian Smith wrote: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:53:33 +0000, _ <whos@prettyboy.com> wrote: > >> Where did I say I was knowingly causing more danger? Ooops, sorry, >> I didn't. > > When you said "I've no doubt that has translated into giving cyclists > less consideration when I come across them on the roads." > So less consideration equals causing more danger? Hmmmm, interesting proposition. It sounds like you cyclists are just too damn vulnerable out there, perhaps we should just ban you from the carraigeway for your own safety.

>> I was addressing the *group*, not individuals within it. > > So you believe it is appropriate to characterise an entire group > because of teh behaviour of some part of it. In which case you'll > presumably also hold teh view that all motorists are drunken, > speeding, uninsured, unlicensed drivers of unsafe deathtraps? > Its called stereotyping, and its a fairly common thing - surprised you haven't come across it before. Oh, hang on, yes you have, as evidenced by your next sentence :)

You're either inordinately stupid, or just deliberately missing the point. Lets say, for the purpose of this particular conversation, that you're right that I'm a deliberate danger to every cyclist on the planet and go out of my way to maim them. It'll be sheer bollocks, but since you're so desperate to score points I'll let you have that one for the moment. No, there you go, you were right all along and I should be exterminated for being so prejudiced against cyclists. Now, are you paying attention? Here's the 64,000 dollar bit (i.e. the bit you snip from your crowing reply...) *Why* am I that way? Did I come to this group seeking nothing more than a confirmation of my loathing for all things bike? Am I a closet psychopath looking for a sector of society to despise? Hmmm, I dont think so. I can only have gained this new-found dislike as a direct result of interactions with posters here. So, as a group of cyclists, do you think you are doing the cause of cycling much good if you engender such reactions from those you are seeking to turn to your views? You're actually acting like a YTS version of Duhg, so bent on his cause that he cant see how many people he is turning *away* from it. But hey, ignore all that, right? Just focus on how well you've done, finally forcing another cager to admit he's got a death wish for anyone on a bike. *That's* why I suggested you're a bunch of 'tards...