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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!37g2000yqp.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <1bd42b10-8f13-4aae-b67a-76b662af1fc1@37g2000yqp.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Happi Monday: The First REAL Troll I've Seen on URC Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 38 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.160.138.240 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246232154 21036 127.0.0.1 (28 Jun 2009 23:35:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 37g2000yqp.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.160.138.240; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3393 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:712652

Although, to use his favourite term, Happi Monday is quite clearly a "P R I C K", I'm glad he's come along at this opportune moment, as he (it's almost certainly a he) is an excellent example of a genuine troll, and perhaps, just perhaps, this will educate some people and make them realise that Judith, Nully, I etc are *not* trolls at all.

Happi Monday randomly calls people obscenities without ever explaining why he's doing so, never even tries to make any real points whatsoever, appears to have no vague interest in transport-related matters whatsoever, and is basically here purely to piss people off with utterly predictable, utterly repetitive, totally worthless crap. There is simply no merit at all to what he posts. It's not that he has controversial opinions, he simply has no real opinions, he's just like a child who's discovered the word "prick" and has taken to amusing himself by using it to the grown-ups and shocking them. Now
 * that* is trolling.

Judith, Nully, I, and others are not the same as Happi Monday. We all opinions that others like to read, but they are valid, genuinely held opinions all the same (in fact they're often demonstrably correct). There is undeniably merit to what all of us post; no-one can seriously deny that all of us have made good points at one time or another, and many (even our opponents, e.g. Danny Colyer) have admitted that.
 * do* have opinions on transport-related matters; they may not be

Some (most) of us may get pretty fed up with the likes of Chapman, and may utter obscenities in his direction, but those obscenities are usually for a particular reason which is explained, and have some meaning and accuracy behind them. And Chapman certainly gives as good as he gets when it comes to that kind of thing. At the end of the day, we're not here to troll, we're here because we wish to discuss transport-related issues and correct what we see as misconceptions.

The difference between Happi Monday, as a genuine troll, and the rest of us, who are not, should be obvious to anyone. The sooner that certain people accept that, and stop dismissing us as "trolls" simply because we dare to come on here and speak awkward truths, the better, for everyone.