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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!xindi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!multikabel.net!newsfeed20.multikabel.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: 20mph speed zones cut road injuries by 40%, study says Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:39:46 -0000 References: <2ce81452-8663-4c7e-9e2b-e69f08d69d86@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <4b21f9c0$0$2531$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> <6ba76ac6-e025-47d6-9214-b18cee6121fa@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Lines: 48 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.13 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 8ce0f727.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=Hfn540SlDSJnGLbD^jE8UDnok4Z\0bI9nA2abDEn, websitereader@yahoo.co.uk says... > > On Dec 11, 7:50 am, "Mark Lewis"  wrote: > > > UK cities should have more 20mph speed zones > > > > We should move to 20mph on all minor roads and in built up areas, 50mph on > > main roads. > > > > Hybrid vehicles could be optimised for this scenario, electric at 20, fuel > > at 50. > > > > The verge or pavement on the 50mph roads should be developed into a cycle > > track. Cyclists could reasonably be asked to cycle on the 20mph roads > > rather than using the pavement. > > > > Improvement of the 50mph roads could maintain existing traffic flow. More > > could be spent on them because less maintenance of the 20mph roads would be > > necessary, since they would no longer be used as rat runs. > > > > Apart form increasing safety this would reduce noise, ground level pollution > > and CO2 emissions. > > > > -- > > Mark Lewis, North Somerset > > 20 on all minor roads & 50 on all other roads, that should push the > cost of living up a bit. > Probably increase co2 as well.

Yes, the attitude among the car-haters seems to be "As long as it makes driving more unpleasant, it doesn't matter what other effects it has". Hence the car-haters regularly advocate anti-motorist measures which they know perfectly well are killing people (e.g. speed cameras), making us all poorer (like we need that at the moment), damaging the environment (e.g. all the things that cause unnecessary congestion), lowering quality of life for everyone (not just motorists), etc.

It's incredible just how rabid they are and how determined they are to piss off motorists at all costs. How can someone be twisted enough to think that killing road users and crippling the economy is "worth it" if it means that people are going to be punished for using the only mode of transport which is remotely practical for them? It just shows that these nutjobs have lost all perspective; no-one who was remotely reasonable would think that *any* cause justified advocating measures which killed people, especially a "cause" as unnecessary, petty, counterproductive and spiteful as car-hating.