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On Mar 21, 6:44=A0pm, Matt B  wrote: > > In that system it is the motor vehicles that dominate the scene and > generally make all the calls. =A0If I see a friend across the street I > should be able to walk across, in between the cars which will be > travelling slowly enough to accommodate me, not have to wait for the 30 > mph stream to clear, or have to walk to a crossing point.

Yes, I can see exactly why Chapman dismisses what you post as "pro- motorist crap".

(What he really means of course is that you're not spitefully anti- motorist in the way that he is, you suggest what you do because you genuinely want to achieve safety for every mode of transport, and not because you want to make car use more difficult for ideological reasons while merely using safety as an excuse...which of course is exactly what Chapman does, and I guess he (along with Jackson and co) doesn't like your suggestions blowing his out of the water in terms of safety effectiveness, thereby exposing his real agenda.)