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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!multikabel.net!newsfeed20.multikabel.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e255468$0$2949$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Boris rejects 20mph limit Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:54:46 +0100 References:  <3d94a399-6369-4c69-8987-9e8e728f42f0@v12g2000vby.googlegroups.com>  <9y%Up.28265$29.583@newsfe08.ams2> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9y%Up.28265$29.583@newsfe08.ams2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 7b1e346f.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=H\c;ecDg`AH0`W9_c1YQ<7S2@IFYkjAamGG^m523mfc22A X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2511 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:817578

On 18/07/2011 20:10, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: > On 13/07/2011 22:34, Tom Crispin wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:02:42 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason >>  wrote: >> >>> On Jul 13, 5:02 pm, Tom Crispin wrote: >>>> In a shocking betrayal of cyclists, the London Mayor, Boris Johnson >>>> rejected calls to limit motorists' speed to 20mph, even though he >>>> accepts that motorists' average speed across the bridge is >>>> 12mph.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H9SINEWUqY >>> >>> Why does there need to be a speed limit of 20mph when traffic barely >>> exceeds half of that average speed anyway? >> >> Because at off-peak times traffic speed over Blackfriars Bridge, and >> other London Bridges, is much more than 12 mph. >> >> Bridges pose a particular problem for cyclists in as much as a high >> proportion of users want to turn left or right either before or after >> the bridge, or both before and after. This causes many conflict >> points. Slowing traffic is an excellent way to smooth traffic flow, >> reduce the liklihood of conflict and reduce the severity of >> collisions. > > Much simpler to ban cyclists from bridges. > > Or they could get off & push the bike.

After all, "it's only 100-odd metres" (the excuse that Mr Crispin offered up for reducing the limit on the bridge).