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On Jun 4, 10:29=A0pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:03:23 -0500, Ben C  said > in : > > >> To qualify you'll need to demonstrate that they apply to travelling at > >> 31 mph in a 30 mph limit, and that they would cease to be "negative" > >> if the speed limit was increased to 31 mph. > > >That is a somewhat unreasonably strict definition of "per se"! > > It's also a fallacious argument, the fallacy of the heap. =A0I suspect > Troll B has been told this before.

I think what you meant to say was "I can't show that there are any negative consequences of exceeding the speed limit per se, so I hereby admit that my support of speed cameras has never been anything to do with safety. I only like them because they're a good motorist- persecuting tool."

Whenever the trolls are asked to demonstrate how exceeding the speed limit in itself can actually cause accidents, they fail miserably, and immediately set about obfuscating and (surprise surprise) trolling.