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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <73439fff-6a09-4804-9f55-856d1407ad36@h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: How to get speeding drivers to slow down. Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:54:21 -0700 (PDT) References:  <58d5e2d1-71b0-4de0-ba4d-409d864e5a79@t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 61 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.145.66.20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242168861 2634 127.0.0.1 (12 May 2009 22:54:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.145.66.20; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4290 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:701057

On May 11, 12:00=A0pm, "Simon Mason"  wrote: > "Sir Jeremy"  wrote in message > > news:58d5e2d1-71b0-4de0-ba4d-409d864e5a79@t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... > > > On 11 May, 10:45, "Simon Mason"  wrote: > >> This works every time. A car coming towards you is obviously speeding = and > >> you, being a responsible law abiding citizen, wish it to slow down les= t > >> it > >> kills someone down the road. All you do is point behind you and shout > >> "speed > >> trap", then watch as they slam on their brakes and stick to the limit. > >> Some > >> even thank you! > > > =A0What the fuck is it to do with you anyway? > > Because I am a responsible law abiding citizen and like to do my bit for > road safety.

PLEASE say that you don't sit in lane 3 of the motorway at what you think is 70mph whether or not you're overtaking. There can be no doubt that that crosses the line between a potentially honest (if thoroughly misguided) effort at improving safety, and being a complete self-righteous twat. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who does that doesn't do it for safety, they do it because they're utterly fuckwitted control freaks who like to impede people and can't bear for anyone to benefit from going faster than they are. More often than not they prove that safety isn't their aim by getting their "revenge" on people who pass them on the left by tailgating them, leaving their full beam on, etc. (It's the same with dickheads who take exception to being safely overtaken on single carriageways.)

> > How do you know the oncoming car is speeding? > > 34 years of driving experience dear chap and the solid evidence of their > brake lights. If they are *NOT* speeding, why would they slam on the brak= es, > eh?

What, you've never seen anyone spot a camera and brake even when they were already within the speed limit? If someone suddenly spots (or is warned of) a camera, and they're not sure if they're within the arbitrary limit or not, it makes sense to brake first and check afterwards...that split second may make the difference between being nabbed and not.

I must say, Simon, I'm rather disappointed in you if you really do what you say in your OP. Leave the policing to the police please, as they are trained to spot and deal with such things, and if you really think anyone's driving dangerously, report them. That's what the police themselves would advise you to do, not take your own brand of vigilante action. I see dangerous and illegal behaviour quite often, but I'd never try to force someone to stop such behaviour, or even flash or beep at them, unless I genuinely thought that they were about to cause an accident. Otherwise it's got nothing to do with me. This is especially the case when it comes to an "offence" which isn't dangerous in itself, such as exceeding the speed limit.