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On Jul 10, 8:13=A0pm, "burtthebike"  wrote: > or CACL (Cackle) for short? > > I am so peed off about the serious inaccuracies in the media, all forms, > about cycling, that I'm thinking of starting a campaign to try and correc= t > them. =A0I'm especially concerned about helmets and the risks of cycling. > > Anyone have any comments? (apart from Judith, JNugent and Digi something = or > any other trolls)

("trolls" =3D anyone who disagrees with you. Do you have any examples of someone on this group who disagrees with you but isn't a "troll"? Thought not.)

Just face the inevitable. If you want cyclists to get respect, you and your militant friends must give respect to *all* other road users, including motorists. There's no other way. You have to decide whether your campaign against motorists is more important to you than your wish for all cyclists to be treated as proper, courteous, decent road users. Because you can't have both.

Do what's best for you, motorists, and those well-intentioned cyclists whose reputation you're currently tarnishing: ditch the anti-motorist stuff, cooperate with all other road users, and accept that it's right and proper that the roads should be open to all, without prejudice or discrimination. Once you and your fellow militants are treating others like that, you'll be treated like that yourselves, by other roads users and the media. Problem solved.

There's *no* other way round it, much as you might hate the idea of being nice to motorists, so you might as well come to terms with that now. Do as you would be done by: show respect to other road users, and bite your lip every time you want to spitefully say "Ban motorcycles from bus lanes" or something similar, because every time you do say that, you're increasing the disdain that people have for cyclists that little bit more.

If you and your fellow trolls just did that from now on, I can guarantee that things would be a hell of a lot better for countless thousands of road users. But you won't do it of course, because the unbelievable spite against motorists swallows up all logic and reason. It's a shame.

You know I'm right, all of you. For goodness' sake, isn't it about time that this ridiculous, self-defeating, anti-motorist militancy came to an end? What is it going to take for you to see sense? It's absurd. It really is. Just absurd.