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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <440de086-1e1a-434e-8cb9-474cc153107f@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Reasonable? Necessary? You Decide Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:54:31 -0800 (PST) References: <6ea8bd3b-ff2f-4227-98f7-a5e457545b20@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>   Lines: 55 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.165.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1203936872 4369 127.0.0.1 (25 Feb 2008 10:54:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.165.120; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4121 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:641705

On Feb 23, 1:55 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:49:12 -0000, Rob Morley  > said in : > > >> 1. Location: a stretch of wide, straight urban road with compulsory > >> cycle lanes. > >> Motorist A is waiting towards the middle of the road for a long line > >> of oncoming traffic to clear so that they can turn right. Motorist B > >> (with a line of cars behind) is coming up behind Motorist A and wishes > >> to continue past Motorist A, so that neither Motorist B nor the cars > >> behind are unduly delayed. There is not enough space to do this > >> without going into the cycle lane. Motorist B checks carefully all > >> around and ascertains that there are no cyclists anywhere nearby. > >> Motorist B briefly enters the cycle lane to get round Motorist A and > >> gets fined for doing so by a policeman who was observing from his car > >> further down the road. > >Perfectly reasonable: a mandatory cycle lane is no more a place to drive > >than a pavement is. > > Indeed. Why is patience never an option for these people? Seems > they would rather waste their lives bleating about being caught than > comply with the law. String 'em up, it's the only language they > understand. > > >> A Pedestrian presses the button on the pelican crossing, but then > >> manages to complete the crossing and continue their journey before the > >> corresponding traffic light turns red. No other pedestrians are > >> nearby. A Motorist drives up to the crossing, observes that no > >> pedestrians are going to cross after carefully checking, and drives > >> through the crossing while the traffic light is still red. The > >> Motorist gets fined for doing so by a policeman who was observing from > >> his car further down the road. > >Quite right - anyone who ignores a red light should expect to be > >prosecuted. > > How dare you suggest that a motorist would cross a red light. Shame > on you! Everybody knows that breaking the law in this way is the > exclusive preserve of cyclists.

Oh do shut up. I never said anything like that. You really are the ultimate stirrer.

If you haven't got anything of worth to say, keep it zipped. At least Rob Morley actually answered my points without bellyaching, even if he does talk some shit. He has every right to his opinion though, just like I do. Though doubtless you would prefer it if motorists were stripped of their vote for "crimes against the environment" or some such rubbish.

And they made him an admin on Wikipedia. That's one thing that we can't get away from by emigrating. Loonies are taking over asylums the world over.

Give us a bell next time you're in Goring BTW. I'll send out a welcoming committee.