Nuxx:B2486f79-446f-4810-872f-53d993ab000a@s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: What is "Primary Position"? Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:05:28 -0700 (PDT) References:  <4a3cf1b4$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Lines: 37 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245517528 12311 127.0.0.1 (20 Jun 2009 17:05:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2855 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:710871

On Jun 20, 3:27=A0pm, Bod  wrote: > Marco wrote: > > Hi > > > Infrequent visitor to this group; have noticed the phrase > > "Primary Position" bandied around a lot recently, but have > > no idea what it means! > > > Could someone please explain or point me to a web link or FAQ? > > > Thanks in advance > > A few cyclists adopt a position in the middle of lane(for some strange > reason),they think it is more sensible to ride in this position,even if > it causes cars to be stuck behind them.They consider this a safer > position although it is not in the Highway Code.

More-or-less correct. It is a position used by car-haters who want to frustrate and block the progress of motorists, and are even prepared to endanger themselves in order to do so, such is their spite. You can *see* the smug look on the faces of some cyclists as a huge queue is building up behind them solely because they're riding unnecessarily obstructively.

They claim it's to stop cars overtaking when it's "unsafe", but since they assert that any overtake which doesn't allow a gap of at least 5 miles is "unsafe", this cannot be taken any more seriously than anything else they say.

None of the normal, non-car-hating cyclists that I know see any need to use "primary position". It simply isn't necessary if your aim is just to cycle from A to B, rather than to antagonise motorists and "punish" them for driving.

The OP should not fall into the trap of thinking that the car-haters speak for cyclists at large. That's what they want you to think, but it's resolutely untrue.