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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n30g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <198d4560-b7e3-4211-9d6f-70c7b91f1d9c@n30g2000vba.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: What is "Primary Position"? Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:04:56 -0700 (PDT) References:     <7cCdnXy-F-pdl6PXnZ2dnUVZ8oadnZ2d@pipex.net> <7a76gaF1tvqv4U1@mid.individual.net> <_KydnVSLyKAa8KPXnZ2dnUVZ8o2dnZ2d@pipex.net>   Lines: 42 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245632697 26260 127.0.0.1 (22 Jun 2009 01:04:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n30g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3324 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:711046

On Jun 21, 11:26=A0pm, JNugent  wrote: > Simon Brooke wrote: > > JNugent  wrote: > >> Martin wrote: > >>> What portion of traffic legislation gives one road user the right to > >>> overtake another in the same lane? > >> What is not forbidden is allowed, but only a police officer in uniform= may > >> give legitimate directions to road-users. > > What part of highway code rule 163 do you not understand? > > Without looking at it (and trust me, I don't know the Code well enough to= be > able to quote it by rule numbers), is rule 163 the law, or just "best > practice" advice? > > [It's OK - having checked to see which rule 163 is, it is plain that it i= s > advice for the users of vehicles which are overtaking.] > > Traffic lanes are set, of course, at the width they are (usually 12') bec= ause > that is appropriate for motor vehicles (which means cars, vans, lorries a= nd > buses). > > Where highway lanes are marked out for bicycles only, they are never set = at > 12" because that sort of width is simply not necessary and would represen= t > the most unforgivable waste of scarce resources. It follows that the "nee= d" > for bicycles to hog a whole 12' (or wider) lane is illusory at best and t= he > result of post-hoc mendacity at worst.

Very well put: shows beyond any reasonable doubt that those who ride in the middle of a lane do indeed do it to annoy motorists, and this will be confirmed by the inevitable lack of any proper refutation of the above (together with the usual snarling that we tend to get from the regulars here when they've been proven wrong about something and yet another aspect of their car-hating agenda has been exposed).