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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n4g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: alerting drivers to rear light failures Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:52:25 -0700 (PDT) References:   <7bu6peF25l2cvU1@mid.individual.net>  <7bu7s8F25kf0hU2@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 52 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.209.43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247557946 25301 127.0.0.1 (14 Jul 2009 07:52:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n4g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.209.43; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4076 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:717098

On Jul 12, 2:59 pm, "mileburner"  wrote: > Bod wrote: > > It wouldn't surprise me if you said "Get your effing light sorted,you > > tosser" :-) > > I actually *always* start off quite polite. I would have said something l= ike > "s'cuse me mate, do you realise one of your tail lights are out?". Fact i= s, > when you raise anything with car drivers, be it about the state their car= is > in or their piss poor parking or driving habits, the majority will become > defensive and possibly aggressive.

Yet again you make ridiculous statements about "the majority" of motorists which are purely the result of prejudice and hatred rather than anything remotely to do with reality.

Please be honest: just why do you have such a problem with car drivers? I'm genuinely fascinated to know, because like so many here, you're clearly pretty determined and passionate about it. Do you resent the freedom that motoring gives people? Do you think that no- one (except you) should be put in charge of a ton of metal: would you prefer to see people being controlled all the time? Do you not like the idea of people being so free to move around wherever (and whenever) they want without the state being able to keep tabs on them? Would you prefer it if people's movement was extensively restricted and monitored "for their own good"? D'you think that's the way to better society?

Just what is it that so frustrates you about seeing someone being given the freedom to accelerate safely on the open road without any other cars or anything else to hold them up? What is it that makes you so desperate to impede them with obstacles, cameras, low speed limits, other vehicles, etc? What is so bad about someone being able to make progress and get to their destination in timely fashion and without frustration? Why do you so detest that idea? (Don't bother with the "safety" excuse: what's the *real* reason? Are you a socialist, or a control freak, or don't you think anyone can be trusted, or what?  Please tell us; I'm dying to know.)

> I am just glad I am not a traffic cop or traffic warden. They have to put= up > with this type of shit *all* the time.

Sadly, I think you'd very much enjoy being either of them, especially a council-employed parking attendant who was encouraged to give out as many tickets as possible (and just think, you could sneak around doing it without actually having to face the drivers as well, though I'm sure you'd like to hide out of sight and watch with glee as people came back to =A3120 tickets for technical infringements where they weren't harming anyone).