Nuxx:Cbec3c7a-e30e-4d80-9978-2a36bc9f79b5@n4g2000vba.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n4g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 12:09:43 -0700 (PDT) References:   Lines: 36 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243451383 18707 127.0.0.1 (27 May 2009 19:09:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n4g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2855 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:704690

On May 27, 5:44=A0pm, Mike  wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 2009 19:03:28 +0100, jms  > wrote: > > >Those who do not wish to see my views may add my name to their > >kill-file. > > Duly done. Sad that *every* entry in my killfile for u.r.c is related > to you (or should that be 'it')

You mean I'm not? Better keep that quiet...only a "troll" wouldn't have me in their killfile....

> There should be no need for this proposed moderated group

There isn't. Get rid of Chapman and Spindrift, and infinitely better results will be achieved with a tiny fraction of the effort.

> you sadly are the prime driver for needing one.

Chapman and Spindrift are the root causes. They attract the trouble; they are the nucleus of the "we pretend to be pro-cyclist but actually we're just 'secretly' anti-car" bunch (which would just melt away without them as most are just sycophants of Chapman); they are the main reasons why there is so much controversy about anti-motorist measures etc in this group when really there should just be straightforward, non-politically charged discussion about cycling for the main part.

You can get rid of the "trolls", but more will always just take their place. Get rid of Chapman and Spindrift and the "trolls" will stop coming, because the group will have lost what made it so controversial: two of the most despised and infamous car-hating troublemakers on the whole UK transport-related Internet. The group would then be little more controversial than a knitting group, and who would bother "trolling" a group like that?