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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe04.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclists going through red traffic lights Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:13:55 +0000 References: <72h0pkFpshmdU1@mid.individual.net>	<81da1a72-951c-4473-99db-d16f48840e19@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>		<568f6f67-f856-4720-ad59-c45abbc27ad1@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>	<72h8tnFq0600U1@mid.individual.net>					<6aVwl.100376$2t6.58720@newsfe28.ams2>			<5-6dnYpicdy_TFnUnZ2dnUVZ8jeWnZ2d@bt.com> <20090321145005.602f29ea@bluemoon> Lines: 39 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090321145005.602f29ea@bluemoon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.12.82.202 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe04.ams2 1237652068 86.12.82.202 (Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:14:28 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:14:28 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 2862 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690495

Rob Morley wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:36:20 -0000 > "Adam Lea"  wrote: > >> I am interested to know how the percentage can be so >> high given that as soon as one car stops at the lights the cars >> behind are forced to do the same. >> > It's the number that go through given the opportunity - obviously if > the car in front is one that stops then all behind will stop, but if > the one in front doesn't stop the next one has a choice. This is > probably why motorists get so pissed off at red light jumping cyclists, > who can generally filter to the front of the queue and go whenever they > want. I generally obey traffic signals whether I'm driving or cycling, > and I really don't see what the problem is,

Okay. Well thats your choice, of course.

> but apparently lots of people are not paying attention,

The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean?

> not aware of the law,

The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean?

> not in control of their vehicles,

The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean?

> lacking social conscience,

The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean?

> much too important to slow down ...

The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean? I know, these sodding cyclists are real antisocial twats, aint they? >