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On Mar 25, 4:21=A0pm, Matt B  wrote: > spindrift wrote [digging his hole deeper]: > > > > > Key points are: one third of crashes have speeding as a primary cause > > (TRL) > > Can you cite the report or study reference and date for that - or did > you make it up yourself? > > Or perhaps is was that laughable effort to support a rash assertion in > which they had to add together such factors as "weather", "too close" > and "other" to bump the number up to "one third"? > > The latest STATS19 data, as reported in RCGB 2007 states that "exceeding > speed limit" (speeding) was a contributory factor in 6% of all accidents > in 2007. > > Even if you add "travelling too fast for conditions" (but within the > speed limit), which was stated to be a factor in 10% of all accidents, > you still only get a maximum of 16% of all accidents.

That's one of those facts that you're not allowed to point out, for fear of making it obvious that "speeding" isn't the evil that it's made out to be (and therefore doing damage to Spindrift's anti- motorist campaign, which at the moment relies heavily on pretending that "speeding" (which of course all drivers do) is incredibly dangerous and irresponsible). If you do point it out, especially if you do it often and/or in the media, you'll be branded a "troll" and/ or "mad" (at best), or have a psychopathic hate campaign launched against you which persists even after you die (at worst).

Don't make Spindrift have a psycho-tantrum by making his "secret" anti- motorist agenda more difficult. Otherwise he'll make sure you regret it. He doesn't like people getting in the way of his plans.