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IT'S NOBBY! HI NOBBY! You're funny. Did you know that?

On Jun 23, 12:08=A0am, Nobby Anderson  wrote: > Judith M Smith  wrote: > > > Did you make the first Lou Knee post? > > Tell me judith, do you ever question your own sanity? =A0Even if Chapman = was > everything you and Nuxxy say, do you really think a rational, sane > person would pursue this the way the pair of you do?

We come on here to expose the worst, most dishonest, most agenda- driven fuckwits on this group. He is arguably *the* worst example (only Spindrift even competes for overall vileness), and he's always posting, so he gets a fair bit of our attention when we're on URC. Anyway, half the time I or Judith post something that's nothing to do with Chapman, then Chapman stirs it by posting something inflammatory in reply to a reply to that post. Why do you not reprimand him for doing that? Why are the URC regulars constantly accusing their opponents of doing things which they and/or those who they support do?

> If he's so universally > despised, as you both argue,

It's not just us arguing it: Nully has as well, just tonight. And as you no doubt know, there's no "If" about it. Have you *seen* Encyclopedia Dramatica? What about Wikipedia Review, Wikipedia itself in many quarters, and many, many other sites? You appear to be just another example of a URC regular who simply pretends that things are how they want them to be, and never mind if things actually *are* that way or not. Would it really put that big a dent in your argument to openly accept that Chapman is widely despised? Wouldn't your argument actually look stronger if you weren't so obviously resorting to insinuating things (e.g. "Chapman isn't widely despised") which you know aren't true?

> surely the facts will speak for themselves, > and there's be absolutely no need to repeat it many many times a day as y= ou > seem to feel you must.

Why does Chapman keep needing to say that helmets are a bad thing if it's so obvious? Again, you accept it when he does it, but complain when we do it. You would fit right in as a "moderator" on URCM.

> The pair of you really do seem to have a problem, > and it isn't Chapman.

Do you honestly think either of us care what you think? Really and truly? We've decided to do what we do on this newsgroup; we've decided that it's worthwhile, and that of course some people aren't going to be happy about it, but that's usually because they're having their arguments demolished and/or being made to look stupid.

We expected certain people to be unhappy with our presence for those sorts of reasons; do you therefore really think that you being unhappy with our presence is going to make any difference to us? Experiencing opposition is an occupational hazard of going onto a group of lying fools and exposing their nonsense whether they like it or not. (I'm not saying that you're a lying fool, necessarily, but you certainly jump to the defence of lying fools.)

> What do you think you're going to achieve? =A0Is he > all of a sudden going to turn around, and say "Oh, look, I am a devious > murdering scumbag!"?

No, but it shows other people that he is when we make these true assertions that he has no answer to. People may not admit it but a lot of them have seen Chapman's true colours to one extent or another simply because of Judith and I broadcasting Chapman's many deceptions and lies, rather than trying to bury them like him and his dedicated sycophants keep doing.

The Lou Knee saga has been particularly damaging: no-one can fail to see that he has refused to answer the question "Have you ever posted as Lou Knee?" People like you can jump to his defence when the question is asked, but such diversionary tactics aren't enough I'm afraid. You *know* that the more Chapman refuses to answer that question, the worse his reputation gets. It's great, we're doing a wonderul job of exposing Chapman for what he really is, and we'll continue thank you very much.

> No. =A0Does anyone else, other then your sockpuppets, > actually care? =A0No. =A0WHy do you do it? =A0It just isn't normal. > > Really, sweetie, it's not neccessary. =A0Honestly, nobody cares.

Get Chapman to stop posting and not only will we stop posting about him, but this group's "trolling" problem and all other problems that the group has will melt away overnight, with no need for routine censorship dressed up as "moderation" to be brought in. So if you do.
 * really* dislike us mentioning Chapman all the time, you know what to

BYE NOBBY!