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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <806f132d-b25c-4678-95e3-76f1ec798a78@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Bike Messengers' Race Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <24198f61-016f-4696-8ac9-2bb7bcde415c@t10g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 32 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1244058149 3061 127.0.0.1 (3 Jun 2009 19:42:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2956 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:707091

On Jun 3, 5:01=A0pm, Rudolph Hucker <1...@2.com> wrote: > Nuxx Bar wrote: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHLzGj10fg2g > > Oh a Lucas Brunelle video, try searching youtube for other videos of his, > ok these are videos of similar "races" in the US (so bang goes the UK > bit). =A0There are ones were he has crashes one where they have to drink = as > much and as fast as they can. =A0If the London video annoys you these oth= er > ones will really get your ire. =A0However it has to be remembered that on= ly > a very small proportion of cyclists cycle like the nutters in this (and > similar) videos. =A0Think of it a bit like a video of some chavs doing > handbrake turns or street drag racing and saying "see this shows you that > all car drivers are nutters".

I didn't say "All cyclists are nutters". But I do think that certain people on this group see those sorts of antics as "cool", and that such an attitude means they don't really care about road safety (i.e. when they complain about a driver driving "dangerously", they're really just complaining about them driving at all).

It should be obvious when reading the posts of the likes of Spindrift (who admittedly is one of the most extreme examples) that as far as they're concerned, cyclists (including the ones in the video) can do no wrong, and motorists can do no right. This attitude is deeply unhelpful all round, and the presence of posters with attitudes like it is one of the main reasons why URC has the problems that it does. Furthermore, even posters who aren't like that don't have the guts to speak out against it (this thread being a perfect example): they simply tolerate it in a pathetic way.