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On Jun 28, 5:29=A0pm, Roger Thorpe  wrote: > Nigel Cliffe wrote: > >> Uk.transport has had to put up with the same trolls, indeed bigger and > >> nastier trolls and it hasn't collapsed under the weight. Indeed it > >> took some time but even Duhg was seen off. > > > How long did you wait ? > > Years. > I think that after posting links to pictures of him, his home and his > address someone reported him to his ISP. > =A0From the outside it didn't look as if ignoring him had even been > considered. > I hope that nobody is trying to present Doug's treatment as an exemplar > of how to get rid of trolls, because I don't think that we could keep up > that sustained level of unpleasantness.

And anyway, there aren't any trolls on URC, just people with opinions which some would rather not read. And actually, Doug isn't a troll either, he just also has strong opinions which many (including me) disagree with. But I don't seek to censor his posts, because he's entitled to his opinion, and unlike so many other car-haters, he has the guts to actually admit to hating cars.

Why oh why do people think that just by pretending that Judith and I are "trolls", that will magically make troll-busting solutions do the trick in getting rid of us? Are they completely barking? If I pretend that my car's a Ferrari, will that suddenly mean that I can accelerate faster in it? No, because it's not a fucking Ferrari! So why the hell does anyone think that calling Judith and I "trolls" when they know we're not will suddenly allow them to get rid of us as if we were trolls? Are they totally and utterly stupid or what?

Judith and I are not "trolls", we just have particular opinions which some don't want to read. For pity's sake, *please* stop pretending otherwise just because you would find the situation easier to deal with if we *were* trolls. Doing that is just an absurd waste of everyone's time.