Nuxx:5e66cd0c-17e9-4dd9-bf55-57b6b33a0b4c@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <5e66cd0c-17e9-4dd9-bf55-57b6b33a0b4c@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Question For Chapman Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <52c6b326-0243-4801-aecd-fe024e2ed298@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 40 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.150.187 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1208380223 10803 127.0.0.1 (16 Apr 2008 21:10:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.150.187; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9b5) Gecko/2008032620 Firefox/3.0b5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3459 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:647644

On Apr 16, 5:09=A0pm, Nat  wrote: > On 16 Apr, 10:53, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > Do you ever speed? =A0If so, how often approximately? > > Ha ha. I see where you are going with this. Nice try but I am not that > petty thanks. That's just for me and the speed camera to know! > > I'm off on a nice ride home. The weather is good and I've got a new > back tyre so can't wait.

The question wasn't for you, but thanks anyway. The question was for the impossibly vile, excruciatingly hateful Guy Chapman. You'll notice that he's declined to give a straight answer, since the answer is "Yes", and giving that answer would make his pro-camera arguments look utterly hypocritical and stupid. It's just another example of him being a slippery, horrible little man of the highest order. And it's yet more proof that he supports cameras because he hates motorists (except himself, because he's special). If he really believed that cameras saved lives, and speeding was as bad as he claimed, he wouldn't speed.

This is what I don't understand. Surely any genuinely decent person who supported cameras would realise that Paul Smith was a fundamentally good, honest person who genuinely wanted to make things safer for everyone (and improve the lot of motorists at the same time). He quite clearly didn't have a bad bone in his body. Then you look at the likes of Spindrift and Chapman: devious, dishonest bastards who lie about their reasons for supporting cameras and are absolutely not good, honest people by any stretch of the imagination. You don't need to know anything about the camera debate to be able to see the difference. Surely if the lead proponents of one side of the argument are good people, and the lead proponents of the other side are utter shits, it's pretty clear where the truth lies.

So if you're a decent person and you're reading this, and you've supported cameras up to now, please open your eyes, and be honest with yourself about the kinds of people that Spindrift, Chapman and their associates really are. It's impossible to exaggerate what awful people they are. They don't deserve your support.