Nuxx:F21fa5c6-7ebf-4170-8463-06b78b56b603@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: What Should He Do? Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 26 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.208.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1241531129 13613 127.0.0.1 (5 May 2009 13:45:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.208.50; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2376 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:699583

So, a driver receives a NIP accusing him of speeding. He remembers the occasion when the camera flashed and is adamant that he wasn't speeding. What should he do?

1. Challenge the case in court. If he wasn't speeding, he shouldn't have to pay anything, end of story.

2. Accept the fine; like all other motorists, this driver is bound to be an irresponsible, lying scumbag, and therefore when he says that he wasn't speeding, he's not telling the truth.

3. Accept the fine, given that the fine was not really for speeding, it was just for driving full stop, and therefore silly arguing about numbers is irrelevant.

Why does there not seem to be a single person who supports speed cameras but whose thinking matches point 1 above? You'd think that anyone who supported speed cameras for safety reasons and not car- hating reasons would be quite happy for those who are falsely accused of speeding to challenge their cases.

Yet the consensus among camera supporters is that such drivers are trying to "wriggle out" of their fines. Is this because their thinking actually matches point 3 (or possibly point 2) above? I can't see any other reason why the assumption would be so readily made that the driver shouldn't be challenging their fine.