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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <766a714e-6029-4f57-9ed7-9be23544d751@n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Motorist letter in local rag Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:33:26 -0700 (PDT) References:  <98532f19-d77b-4e60-88fc-f69c5d3e426c@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <43ce6849-bb22-4fc3-942b-ad0675c96ab7@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Lines: 18 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.204.241 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1207931606 10758 127.0.0.1 (11 Apr 2008 16:33:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.204.241; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080311 Firefox/2.0.0.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2245 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:646771

On Apr 11, 3:46 pm, Duncan Smith  wrote: > > No-one's saying cyclists are "second class road users", but if a good > > quality, useful, fully usable cycle lane has been built at the > > taxpayer's expense, then surely only a cyclist with a chip on their > > shoulder would still bring themselves into conflict with other traffic > > by using the road. > > Cycle-lanes collect debris that cause punctures. Cycle-lanes cause > increased danger to cyclists at every single junction. Do you put > yourself into conflict with lorries or heavyplant just beceause you > share the same road space?

So you'd rather not have the lanes at all? Presumably you'd agree that if people aren't going to use them then they're a waste of money.

And if they collect debris, then the ones that are marked on the road are also a needless PITA for non-cyclist traffic, since they effectively narrow the road for no reason.