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On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:53:46 +0000 (UTC), graham  wrote:

>On my way home on Friday around 6pm a large stretch of the a30 was blocked >off by police westwards from the Hounslow west roundabout to Hatton Cross. >There was a mangled bike on the road at the Hatton Cross junction, and a >lorry pulled over just past it. If the bike was the accident, from the >positions it looked like another left-turning lorry with a cyclist on the >inside, but I'm only guessing. Anyone know what really happened? I missed >the local news on Friday.

Quite obviously, the collision was caused by a motorist who was speeding. It's the same with every collision, if you believe the claptrap spouted by the lying, agenda-driven car-haters who this place is teeming with.

They'll say and do *anything* if they think it'll make things harder for motorists, and they don't care what the consequences are. Thousands of lives lost unnecessarily? Who cares? Basic, ancient legal principles cast aside (e.g. the right to silence and innocent until proven guilty)? So what? The roads turned into a less friendly and more dangerous place for *everyone*? Oh well, it's all in a good cause.

Countless thousands of decent, hardworking people losing their careers and having their lives ruined due to incredibly minor mistakes (and sometimes not even that...speeding cases these days are incredibly biased, and what of those who move out of the way for emergency vehicles (who of course the car-haters here think should be prosecuted)?) Well, it serves them right for selfishly driving in the first place. As we all know, no-one really needs their car, and all journeys everywhere in the UK can be carried out entirely practically and inexpensively using public transport and cycling 24/7, so there's really no excuse to be a homicidal maniac by driving a ton of metal, and such selfish b**tards deserve everything they get.

C***man: do you think motorists who move out of the way of emergency vehicles and go through red lights while doing so should be prosecuted? (The answer, of course, is "Yes", and that's why he won't answer that question: to do so would make his hatred of motorists obvious, as if it wasn't already. Who does he think he's fooling?)