Nuxx:F4486ae1-5408-4350-bc57-bbcc02768894@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Primary rubbish Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:06:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <4a190d4b$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>  <4a1911dc$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>  <4a191569_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>  <4a191832$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>  <4a191a90$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>   <4a193fe9$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>  <4a1942e8$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>  Lines: 30 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243174009 23457 127.0.0.1 (24 May 2009 14:06:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3129 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:829431

On May 24, 2:49=A0pm, Alistair Gunn  wrote: > > Well seeing as how ever road user seems to need reminding in the highway > code not to exceed the speed limit,

They know they're not "supposed" to exceed the speed limit. They just don't see the point of religiously staying within it when the conditions allow for faster driving. Still, good that you admit that all drivers speed...some here seem remarkably reluctant to do so (probably because admitting that is a large step closer to admitting that they support cameras solely for anti-motorist reasons).

> not to drive too fast for the > conditions even if that it is within the speed limit,

They seem pretty good at it to me on the whole. It's amazing how little drivers crash considering how much driving they do.

> to put lights on if it's dark or reduced visibility

What? *Every* road user? Is that really what you meant to write?

> Alternatively if "keep left" means "keep as far left as is physically > possible" then motor vehicle drivers are far worse "offenders" than > cyclists!

Motorists keep maybe a foot out from the kerb under normal conditions on most roads. If cyclists want to do that, fine, but that's a far cry from stubbornly staying in the middle of a wide lane just to stop vehicles from overtaking when it's safe to do so.