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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <87a6fa70-265a-4c54-a111-fbd39eda676d@e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Chapman Hates Motorists Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <3735b961-b069-40e5-9e5d-96a420d5075d@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>     <61b2aa8b-ec4c-4e34-9f6b-8532032da34a@s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <98c1b700-bf4e-4fc5-b6ce-49052bc724f0@s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <9c8a1b26-4e53-4a18-b007-4e8811ce3d7c@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> Lines: 56 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.208.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1241718323 11396 127.0.0.1 (7 May 2009 17:45:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.208.50; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3784 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:700116

On May 7, 6:44=A0pm, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > On May 7, 2:36=A0pm, nato...@googlemail.com wrote: > > > > > On 6 May, 18:59, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > On May 6, 3:53=A0pm, nato...@googlemail.com wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 3:49=A0pm, "Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote: > > > > > > "RudiL"  wrote in message > > > > > >news:f09ee990-9a48-4608-9014-a611eb7c41f8@g20g2000vba.googlegroups= .com... > > > > > > > Isn't it satisfying to know that if you cycle to work you will = often > > > > > > be home before people who are driving have even managed to get = out of > > > > > > the car park? I take great satisfaction from this ... > > > > > > > Rudi > > > > > > And if it's raining you get home wet. > > > > > There are plenty of ways to keep dry on a bike. I used to just embr= ace > > > > the rain and get soaked but now I am older I have a good set of wat= er > > > > proofs and a really good rain cape. Get home as dry as anything. > > > > Even so, you're nowhere near as comfortable on a bike as you are when > > > you're driving, and still at the mercy of the weather. =A0You're > > > knackered when you get there. =A0You only get home quicker if you're = in > > > a congested town centre. =A0You don't get to listen to your music > > > through speakers. =A0If you need to make a detour over a long distanc= e > > > then you're stuffed. =A0You're vulnerable and indulging in a dangerou= s > > > activity. =A0You can't use satnav or any other gadgets without an > > > enormous amount of hassle. =A0You can't carry much. =A0Etc, etc. > > > > And if anyone's going to lecture me about driving's impact on the > > > environment, they'd better be a vegetarian, because otherwise my > > > impact on the environment is less than theirs.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I am vegeterian and a cyclist. Can I have a go? > > Is anything I say going to make a difference to what you do?

And you should have a go at all the meat-eaters first. But I don't think you should have a go in the first place.