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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <1294807a-0427-4f7d-a318-a09309612475@s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:50:12 -0700 (PDT) References:  <78jvh6F1mlp9dU1@mid.individual.net>    <877a7f48-3541-4e34-a47f-b961596e2ffc@y7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <1j0oqvt.vcog9b1rdpc3bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>  <1j0osn4.1pakbl5103z2cxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> Lines: 42 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243972212 24106 127.0.0.1 (2 Jun 2009 19:50:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3678 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:52534 uk.rec.cycling:4492

On Jun 2, 2:15=A0pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > Mr Benn <%%%@%.%%> wrote: > > "Steve Firth" <%ste...@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:1j0oqvt.vcog9b1rdpc3bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > > > James  wrote: > > > >> I also have no objections to these moderators. I'm a little surprise= d > > >> there is not a single female. > > > > I'm not. > > > Interestingly most of the militant cyclists I have come across have bee= n > > male. > > It's odd. The drivers are generally all male as well but they seem to be > relatively relaxed and jolly as a crowd. The sheer bitterness, anger and > self-righteousness oozed by the cyclists is astonishing.

Sounds about right, although of course some cyclists are very nice, perfectly normal people. Just not usually the most vocal ones who claim to speak for cyclists in general.

What I really can't understand is that the bitterness in question seems to be directed towards motorists. It seems so odd to be so hateful towards a group of 32 million people who are simply trying to get around in the most convenient way possible. The bitterness excuse given for the bitterness. The actual reason seems to be based around such misguided ideas as socialism, the politics of envy, faux "anarchism", a wish to rebel against "normality", a romanticised view of "the simple life" and/or a dislike of personal freedom.
 * isn't* anything to do with "safety", safety is simply the (main)

But none of those are particularly sound or well thought out reasons to so determinedly maintain such intense and lasting anger towards so many people simply for moving around in the "wrong" fashion. And what makes it even more puzzling is that most of the car-haters lie and say that they don't hate motorists at all, despite the fact that it couldn't be more obvious. It's really so very strange. I've never understood it, and so far, I've never seen one of them have the backbone to even attempt to explain it.