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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <07c3615e-6fee-4e3b-b3aa-b7350a0264cd@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: urc's resident "troll feeder" Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:20:34 -0800 (PST) References:   Lines: 31 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.151.152.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1232997635 14890 127.0.0.1 (26 Jan 2009 19:20:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.151.152.80; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2985 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:684070

On Jan 26, 11:09=A0am, Tim Dunne  wrote: > presumably because he sees himself as > some kind of hero.

It's nothing to do with that. It's because he hates motorists, and so when someone comes on here and has a go at his beloved anti-motorist measures, Crapman can't resist arguing with them. Someone's got to perpetuate the lies, after all. When are you going to stop making excuses for him and accept the screamingly obvious and only logical explanation for his posts to date: he has an anti-motorist agenda which is more important to him than "pro-cycling" or pretty much anything else?

He even admitted on his own website that he was anti-motorist. Who, except possibly him, are you helping by going along with his "I'm not anti-motorist" charade? You're certainly not helping URC. Accept that him and Spindrift are here predominantly (totally in Spindrift's case) to push their agenda against cars, get them to leave, then all the "trolls" will leave with them, and you'll finally get what you want. One of these days you and the others will realise that you can't fudge the issue, and the ONLY way of turning URC into the group that you want it to be is to acknowledge Chapman's anti-motorist agenda. You can't avoid it. You're going to have to decide what's more important to you: getting rid of the "trolls", or pandering to Chapman and going along with his risible pretence that he doesn't have a fundamental problem with cars. I think it's the latter, as it certainly has been to date, but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.

Anyone who doesn't think that Chapman is anti-motorist, please say so here, and provide evidence to support your answer (and no, "He drives" is not evidence).