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On Jul 8, 8:21=A0am, G Daeb  wrote: > On Jun 23, 8:33=A0pm, "Ian"  wrote: > > > > > "jms"  wrote in message > > >news:0eu1455mdb215chhbonhcebho5jkd7oiv2@4ax.com... > > > > The second round of discussion has started in =A0uk.net.news.config > > > > However - it is already proposed that in the new group: > > > > "the moderators will cut posts from anyone who they don't think cycle= s > > > regularly." > > > > and also, the group is for: > > > > " * General discussion amongst UK cyclists" > > > > Not a cyclist - not in the clique - then you are not welcome - tough = - > > > you are not allowed to contribute. > > > > I find it annoying that they will then no doubt come in to other > > > groups to promote their way-out views with no "return visits" allowed= . > > > > therefore you may not be welcome or your posts will be censored- but > > > it may be of interest to see what is happening. > > > > You will of course be able to vote on whether the group is formed or > > > not. > > > > The consensus at the moment seems to be that the moderators are > > > encouraged to let words like "cagers" through and anything which is > > > critical of motoring or driving. > > > > ie you can say what you like about other transport groups as long as > > > 'the moderators think that you are a regular cyclist' > > > > I find it annoying that they will then no doubt come in to other > > > groups to promote their way-out views of motorists =A0with no "return > > > visits" allowed and will be voting against the proposed group - as > > > anyone may do. > > > Don't worry. Once the cyclists have been given their own dedicated cycl= e > > group, they won't uise it.- Hide quoted text - > > Just like the motorists who can't read that bus lanes > are only in force between 07:30 and 09:00 and 16:00 > and 17:30 then sit in traffic jams of their own making > whilst flicking obscene hand gestures at people who > can, erm, read?

I quite agree. Motorists with an attitude like that thankfully only make up a small proportion of drivers overall, but they still manage to make driving so much less pleasant than it would be without them, almost all the time during busy periods (they're the same arseholes who hog the middle/outside lane on the motorway, take great pleasure from holding up long lines of traffic on single carriageway roads, and exhibit similar completely unnecessary, obnoxious, self-righteous behaviour).

Dickheads like that pushing from one direction, and the authorities with their anti-motorist measures pushing from another (with support from a minority of the public, including many on uk.rec.cycling), ensure that motoring in this country is almost constantly unpleasant when it's busy. It could all be so different so easily if both sets of people would just stop their nonsense and do something worthwhile instead. You'd think that with the economy in the state that it is, there would be a million things they could do which would benefit them more, but apparently not. The temptation to piss off (other) motorists is just too great.