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On Jul 6, 11:54=A0am, Simon Mason  wrote: > On 6 July, 09:46, Simon Brooke  wrote: > > > > > On 6 July, 06:23, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > > > > On Jul 5, 8:49=A0pm, "David Lloyd"  wrote= > > > > This is very poor. No doubt the designers did intend the sides to b= e cycle > > > > bypasses, but they are not signed as such. As the use of cycle faci= lities is > > > > optional, the use of the central route by cyclists should be expect= ed. > > > > Unfortunately, the inclusion of typical speed bumps makes the adopt= ion of > > > > the primary position through this facility dangerous and uncomforta= ble. > > > > Why on Earth would you need to adopt "primary position" there anyway? > > > Apart from it not being a recognised legitimate position in the first > > > place, no motorist in their right mind would overtake there, > > > You've never actually ridden a bike, have you? > > > Of course motorists will try to overtake there. That's why pinch > > points are so dangerous. > > I *have* been overtaken there on that very spot. I was shouted at by a > taxi driver who tried to barge past as I was riding to the left of the > speed cushion.

That's awful. I stand corrected. Clearly there are some extremely irresponsible drivers around (though thankfully not very many).

> The fact that I was riding at 20mph and it is a 20mph > speed limit did not seem to matter.

You're right, that doesn't matter.