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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!ramfeed2.eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!81.171.88.16.MISMATCH!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!cyclone01.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe11.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cars pulling out of junctions Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:24:21 +0000 References:  <1i0exl19dmo30$.zax26vx739a3.dlg@40tude.net>  <8NydnUCPzo1MIwDUnZ2dnUVZ8j2WnZ2d@bt.com>   Lines: 51 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.23.23.138 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe11.ams2 1235085877 82.23.23.138 (Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:24:37 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:24:37 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3853 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:686443

Marc wrote: > _ wrote: >> Marc wrote: >>> _ wrote: >>>> _ wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:20:59 GMT, Brown Cat wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Twice in as many as two days I've joined a roundabout and the cars >>>>>> before the junction before has jolted forward forcing me to brake >>>>>> to avoid a collision. But they stop before reaching a point where >>>>>> they would have hit me. Today after it happened I looked at the >>>>>> driver and he was just looking straight ahead so he must have seen >>>>>> me. >>>>>> It just feels like some motorists like playing this game where >>>>>> they try to spook the cyclist. Anyone else find this sometimes >>>>>> happens? >>>>> >>>>> Hanlon's razor applies. >>>> >>>> Coming away from Alton Towers this afternoon I passed a Give Way >>>> junction on the right where a queue of vehicles was waiting. First >>>> car had a cyclist alongside him, nearest the curb. 40mph limit, and >>>> as I approached the cyclist pulled out to turn right into my path, >>>> was wobbling as he built up momentum from a standstill, and left me >>>> no room to pass him without crossing the centre line - couldn't do >>>> that as traffic was coming the other way. Only thing to do was stamp >>>> on middle pedal. >>>> The point I was making was, if the car driver (with an acceleration >>>> ability several orders of magnitude more than a bike) thought there >>>> was insufficient room to pull out in front of me, why did the >>>> cretinous cyclist think he'd be okay? If he'd been right in the >>>> gutter that might have worked, with me having room to pass him still >>>> in my lane, but by not doing that he left me with no alternative but >>>> to jam the brakes on to avoid him. >>> I hope it didn't delay your arriving at the next braking point by too >>> many seconds? >> >> About the response I expected... comme d'habitude, URC is quick to >> condemn motorists at even the slightest whiff of wrongdoing, > I expressed a hope that you were not delayed, wasn't that enough for you? > > but fail to >> criticise their own for anything. > > OK if you insist, the cyclist was the spawn of satan in making you slow > down, and so ensuring that you would needed to wait less time at your > next bottleneck. Does that feel better? > Why dont you come out from behind your sock and use the name you use to post here normally? Or is your alter-ego reserved for expressing opinions you are too ashamed to have associated with your other name?