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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT), elyob  wrote:

>On 12 Oct, 19:27, "wafflycat"  wrote: >> "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote in messagenews:92d4f4tpo4ef6l7ur1tgea19lufmsc9hnt@4ax.com... >> >> > That nuxx bar is one sick fuck. >> >> > Guy >> >> Guy - we know it's a troll - don't respond to it - any response is what a >> troll is after, but particularly ones that successfully wind you up. Do >> yourself & everyone on urc a favour & us a killfile. Please. Thanks. > >I'm not getting what he has done to be targeted, troll or not.

- Voicing support for every anti-motorist measure ever discussed, while claiming not to be anti-motorist*.

- Running hate campaigns against legitimate road safety campaigners, simply because they expose truths which he'd rather were suppressed.

- Generally being unbelievably offensive towards those who disagree with him, and trying to censor and/or ban them wherever possible (e.g. on here, Wikipedia, etc).

- Being evasive time and time again when "debating" anything; when he is beaten, he never admits it, but instead starts dodging points, blatantly lying and insulting his opponents. When he is asked a question that he doesn't want to answer (because it would expose one of his lies or make his position look foolish), he makes up some pathetic excuse (or just ignores it or calls it "drivel"), and insults his opponent (for example, he was asked what would bother him more out of a cyclist being decapitated and a motorcyclist being decapitated, and he said it was a "false dilemma", when really the answer was "the first one"). In short, he's a thoroughly bad loser, and he has zero tolerance towards anyone who disagrees with his stated opinions in any way whatsoever.

- He has done the above things so many times, and to such a degree, that he is hated by a *massive* number of people from a *huge* number of different sites. These aren't just "pro-motorist" people or whatever, they have an extremely wide range of viewpoints, and are only united by their realisation that Chapman is deeply obnoxious and totally impossible to reason with. He has been banned from countless forums (including every cycling forum that he's set foot on), and recently he has also been banned from Wikipedia, for abusing his administrator powers to ban those who disagreed with him or put the "wrong" truths in articles (now that doesn't sound like Chapman at all, does it?)

If you *really* don't know why someone would target him, have a look on Google, and you will very quickly find many, many different sites where scores of people hate him, like this one:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/JzG

What evidence do you have that he *isn't* a nasty piece of work? The say-so of him and a few other lying motorist-haters on here? Look around you. He's scum, and that's why he will ALWAYS be targetted and reviled by Internet users until he fucks off and (preferably) dies.

-- anti-motorist (e.g. David Damerell), even if I do think that they're barking. I just hate people who lie about being anti-motorist and claim instead to be interested in "road safety", when really they're just pretending to be as an excuse to advocate anti-motorist measures (speed cameras being a prime example...what a pity that they don't save lives, not that you're allowed to say that round here without being called a "troll"). Anyone who genuinely believes that what they're doing is right should feel no need to be so utterly dishonest and deceptive.
 * I don't automatically have a problem with people who are