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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e383f40$0$2500$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: A helmet might have saved him Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:17:33 +0100 References: <16XZp.86332$Sr.32090@newsfe12.ams2> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <16XZp.86332$Sr.32090@newsfe12.ams2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: b3d00290.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=>nTnI\b8m>KlIMT6iaTKGE0g@SS;SF6nGRiiCXJE[K>GI[IU=`hSLfO`:ITG5aA:cG0Vk92RQ8:RA X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 1825 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:819970

On 02/08/2011 19:12, Mrcheerful wrote: > Too fast, unsuitable vehicle, oh deer. > > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/08/02/teenage-cyclist-dies-after-collision-with-deer-115875-23315013/

Those who say that helmets don't help, while knowing really that they do (say because they wear one themselves), have yet more blood on their hands. Unless you're a complete monster, is it really worth killing innocent kids with deliberately wrong road safety advice just so that restrictions on cyclists can (you hope) be minimised? Surely anyone but a sociopath would have enough of a conscience to stop doing that (or rather to not start doing it in the first place)?

Of course, the good thing is that Chapman's *own* kids will be OK, because he tells them to wear helmets. It's just everyone else and their kids whose safety can go hang in the name of cyclist "freedom".