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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!216.196.110.150.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: "Just zis Guy, you know?"  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving Subject: Re: Watch out for those whacky motorists Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:54:42 +0100 References: <73b62bf3-57ef-472c-bb5e-d0d84d25ea96@d17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:53:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-9a133cwbgfdHq0HuFkC/T1uyPcGaKqEriFIreeVMkwcADgw5apl93FrcJQq+zk9hXlfrS1A2lg0ge+S!Q+At16UH9qHHIr1FrO6IFd4UELW07MmLvpPlmwbsDXwzgBp6SqfjSahqwLSqAE3/GZ2WhQQ/Accs!FJMbGwVg8Q== X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3894 Bytes: 4172 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:781911

In article <73b62bf3-57ef-472c-bb5e-d0d84d25ea96 @d17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, squashme@gmail.com says... > > "There is no doubt that illegal drugs have a variety of very serious > negative effects on driving ability and that drug driving is a major > killer on our roads. In the UK, around 18% of people killed in road > crashes have traces of illegal drugs in their blood, with cannabis > being the most common." (Brake).

I see this as another excellent opportunity to punish people for driving while pretending it's about safety (thereby stopping the cagers from whinging about how it's a democracy and therefore the wish of the majority should be respected and drivers shouldn't be punished for getting behind the wheel...utter crap of course, and all driving should absolutely be treated as a selfish vice, but these halfwits need to be humoured).

Speed cameras have done an excellent job of punishing law-abiding motorists in their millions for doing nothing wrong, but unfortunately this fuckwitted governement has decided to interfere (again pandering to the wishes of the majority...have they no backbone?), and it looks as though sadly we're going to lose all cameras soon. Perhaps we can use things such as drug-driving to fill the gap.

A nice big fine and a nice long ban for driving with drugs in one's system will do very nicely I think. This means that we'll be able to heavily punish a motorist who's had cannabis 3 days earlier, and obviously isn't remotely impaired, but because the cannabis is still in his system, we still have the excuse to charge them. I see this is a great way of getting millions of law-abiding motorists off the roads very quickly: the only trouble with speeding is that a driver has to get randomly caught a few times before they can be banned. No such trouble with drug-driving.

What other ways can we come up with to ban huge numbers of drivers who aren't actually doing anything wrong or causing anyone any danger (other than the fact that they're selfishly driving in the first place of course)? With cameras on the way out, it's extremely important that we get some other hardcore anti-motorist punishments in place sooner rather than later, otherwise the number of drivers will be even higher than it currently is, and we can't have that. Remember, every time someone gives up driving, KSIs drop by an average of 5.3 over their lifetime. Therefore banning drivers in their millions is by *far* the most effective way of reducing KSIs and improving road safety.

Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/ The usenet price promise: all opinions offered in newsgroups are guaranteed to be worth the price paid.