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In article , kemperdavidjon@yahoo.ca says... > > "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote in message > news:r3cbo5l1o0u5o0bovavdsnpsu0vodp89gi@4ax.com... > > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:51:18 -0000, "David Kemper" > >  wrote: > > > >>I do read urcm and there is an underlying mantra, just as I have pointed > >>out. > > > > What, you mean a cycling newsgroup is dominated by people who cycle? > > Fancy that. It's almost as if the group were supposed to be "of > > interest to cyclists" or something, rather than being yet another > > place for promoting the opposite. I'd complain to the Prime Minister > > if I were you. Hurry, the next one's a cyclist, you've probably only > > got until May 6 to get the law changed to forbid cyclists from > > bitching about cagers. > > You are simply an idiot. A shit stirring idiot at that. Refer to Ian Smith > for confirmation. > You are one of the very fewXXXonly people here I detest. Nuff said.

Again, couldn't agree more. It's not the first time C*apman has used exactly that straw man, pretending that "The newsgroup is anti- motorist" is the same thing as "The newsgroup is of interest to cyclists". It's the kind of disingenuous behaviour that C*apman constantly exhibits, especially when someone dares to allege that he or his kind are anti-motorist (who knows where so many people get that "false" idea...could it be because C*apman supports every single anti- motorist measure bar none, despite not hating cars even a little bit?)

When people point out that C*apman is anti-motorist, it touches a raw nerve and he goes into Maximum F**kwit Mode. It was an innocuous post asking why some people hate motorists (and not even mentioning him by name) which caused him to make his infamous Lou Knee post (another thing that he's been less than truthful about). It seems that those in the anti-motorist industry, and their supporters, are extremely touchy about people exposing their real aims and telling it how it is. They don't like it up 'em. The very strong reaction of Essex Police and their ludicrous threats when someone changed "Speed Cameras" signs to "Greed Cameras" is a good example of this. Support of oppressive measures which are designed to remove people's freedoms goes hand-in-hand with support of censorship, particularly in regard to the oppressive measures concerned.

That Ian Smith post was indeed an absolute gem. He, unlike C*apman, has some redeeming qualities, and probably genuinely believes what he writes, however misguided it sometimes is.