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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:25:18 -0000, "spamtrap99"  wrote:

> >"Peter Fox"  wrote in message >news:490A13E2.2050100@PeterFox.ukfsn.org... >> Do you have Skype? (No it isn't a disease!) > >Most skype users willbe car drivers so not welcome here

Good point!

Isn't it strange that so many people from so many different places have this ridiculous idea that URC is full of motorist-hating morons? What on Earth would have given them that impression? Well, the tendency of Chapman and his supporters to support *every* anti-motorist measure, and blame motorists in *every* accident that they have with cyclists/pedestrians, may give some that idea. Chapman putting on his website that he and the others "hate cagers" and are "vehemently anti-motorist" probably didn't help.

And I guess that Chapman's rabid support of speed cameras, despite having admitted that he knew that cameras killed people, looks a little suspicious as well. Why would he support cameras that he knew were killing people, unless it was for anti-motorist reasons? Why would he be so repulsive towards those who exposed the flaws of cameras, unless he wished for cameras to remain for anti-motorist reasons? Nothing else makes sense. Despite continually denying it, Chapman and co are motorist-hating scum. I've worked it out, spamtrap99's worked it out, and so have many, *many*, MANY, *MANY* others. They will keep coming onto this newsgroup and exposing Chapman as a motorist-hating bastard until he is told by the people who are on this newsgroup legitimately that his anti-motorist rhetoric is NOT WELCOME.

There are so many people who hate Chapman that it will never be possible to stop every single one of them from visiting the newsgroups/forums/sites that he's on and telling everyone what a motorist-hating arse he is. People are always going to follow Chapman around and have a go at him; he's pissed off so many people, and been so incredibly unreasonable, that it's absolutely inevitable. So since you can't stop people following Chapman around and shaming him, the only way of stopping those people from coming on to URC is to eject Chapman and his pathetic sycophants. It's a straightforward choice: do you want Chapman AND the "trolls" (where, as usual, "trolls" = "those who don't like Chapman/speed cameras/etc"), or do you want neither? Do you really like Chapman that much that you're prepared to choose the first option? You know what a git he is really, so it's time to stop him ruining the group.

So that's decided then, yes?