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On this thread, among others:

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...Chapman has repeatedly failed to answer two basic questions. They are basic in that the content of the questions is simple, and also in that it would take Chapman mere seconds to answer them. (In other words, they are fundamentally different to deliberately time-wasting "questions" such as "Provide a huge, complete list of every anti- motorist measure bar none".) Please read the questions with an open mind, and think about why Chapman would be so reluctant to answer them.

Question 1: Which would bother you more (all other things being equal): a cyclist being decapitated by piano wire, or a motorcyclist being decapitated by piano wire?

Question 2: Are you going to either substantiate or retract your accusation that I've been using other people's words?

They are pretty straightforward questions, as you can see, and someone with a noble, selfless agenda to save lives would have no problem whatsoever with providing answers. Answer 1 would be something along the lines of "They would both bother me equally", while Answer 2 would be something like "I cannot substantiate the accusation, so I hereby retract it".

The fact that he refuses point blank to answer them, despite being asked the same questions repeatedly, speaks volumes. Why would he refuse to answer Question 1, unless his answer was "The cyclist being decapitated by piano wire would bother me more"? And why would that be his answer, unless he did indeed have an anti-motorist/motorcyclist agenda?

His refusal to answer Question 2 is an even greater stain on his character. When you make an accusation against someone, it is only right that you either substantiate or retract it. Yet Chapman has done neither. It's clear to me that he knows that he cannot substantiate his accusation, but he's so arrogant and stubborn that he will not retract it, even without an apology. Additionally, and almost unbelievably, he repeated the SAME accusation only yesterday.

I believe that this is the clearest indication yet that Chapman's "debating" tactics are extremely underhand, and that he does indeed have a hidden, anti-motorist agenda. No-one who cared about saving lives, and was posting out of the goodness of their heart, would employ such evasive, ungracious tactics. Over the years, he has constantly used the very same tactics when debating with anti-camera posters, but because of the complex subject matter, he has usually managed to obfuscate sufficiently that most readers have not realised how duplicitous he was being. But with these simple, straightforward, quick questions, which only require simple, straightforward, quick answers, no obfuscation is possible, and the truth about Chapman is there for all to see.

Please, dear readers, just open your minds, forget for a second about who's making this post, and look at the questions. Ask yourself if it's reasonable that Chapman refuses to answer them, and ask yourself why. Surely only those who were part of his nasty little anti- motorist crusade would refuse to condemn him for his tactics after reading this post. Chapman and his motorist-hating allies have been exposed once and for all, and not a moment too soon.