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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: What is 'Drivetime' and why is it used/ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:04:55 +0100 References: <0c060824-f3d5-4806-813d-b4830cbb3c41@i37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>  <2ab4f4b4-f058-479f-8f03-9add5f1bf9b6@s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 51 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100408-1, 08/04/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 2939c983.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=c?, JN@noparticularplacetogo.com says... > > Derek C wrote: > > On 8 Apr, 10:53, JNugent  wrote: > >> Doug wrote: > >>> The term 'Drivetime' has appeared on BBC weather forecasts. Would I be > >>> right in assuming that this refers to the homegoing rush hour? If so > >>> why does it ignore 'cycletime', 'bustime', traintime' and 'walktime'? > >>> Is this yet another example of how the car culture mob are allowed to > >>> dominate almost everything? > >> Yes. > >> > >> Long may it continue. It's usually called "democracy". > > > > Doesn't democracy mean the right to vote for politicians who will do > > what you want them to do? > > > > Yes. > > But that's only one - though admittedly the best known - of its meanings. > > > Doesn't seem to have worked very well for the last thirteen years! > > Indeed - thirteen years of Labour misrule.

They really are so, so awful...the worst ever from what I can gather. I can't believe there are *still* some people who are going to vote for them...who have they actually helped in the last few years? Are these just "I've voted for Labour all my life so I'm not going to stop now" / "I support unions so I have to vote Labour no matter how much they screw up" / "I hate the Tories so I have to vote Labour to stop them getting in" types?

I'd be interested to know who you were thinking of voting for. Really, I think the whole system is wrong and that politicians no longer represent the will of the people and are much more interested in feathering their own nests. But since we're stuck with it for the moment, who do I vote for? Clearly the Tories are the least bad of the big three, but they're still pretty rubbish, so do I vote for them or for a party who I really believe in (but who will never win)?

It's very, very frustrating that we're supposed to live in a democracy and yet the will of the people is so blatantly and patronisingly ignored. And of course nowhere do we have more undemocratic policies than with motoring: I don't think more than 20% of people want speed cameras, money-grabbing parking enforcement, and all the other petty inconveniences which are spitefully inflicted on drivers. If I could then I'd emigrate in a heartbeat as things stand.