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Path: num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Ian Jackson is a Cnut  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.net.news.management Subject: Re: urcm It is using urc to do its own job Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:05:04 -0000 References:  Lines: 57 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.13 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091110-1, 10/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 5ec2b53b.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=GF7ELcKV>?SQSVS8iInG_\nok4Z\, tapan@PSANTISPAMblueyonder.co.uk says... > > uk.rec.cycling.moderated is using urc to manage its "mismanagement of urcm" > > So it seems that whenever urcm has disgruntled poster then the moderators > use urc to air their opinions.

What do you expect? Is anyone really surprised by anything that these people do anymore?

> Clive > George (a non moderator who keeps going on how brilliant it is on urcm) has > to dip his oar in again

It's been established that he *is* a "moderator", and that's why he keeps defending urcm (apologies if you already knew that). His real name is Clive George but he "moderates" under a pseudonym (we don't know which but there are only 3 or 4 possibilities). Of course the inherent dishonesty in doing such a thing is unbecoming of a "moderator", but I don't think anyone's too surprised by now, since the urcm "moderators" are by far the worst group of "moderators" I've *ever* seen in terms of censorship, dishonesty, incompetence, obnoxiousness and prejudice.

> It is quite amazing that urcm have to do their dirty washing here on urc. > > I thought urc was to far gone to be useable. I thought that the main > submission made by Ian Jackson in his 2nd RFD was that urc was unusable

Like pretty much everything else he does, this was an example of Jackson telling a shameless, cynical lie in order to get something that *he* wanted: in this case, a "newsgroup" where he could censor anyone who posted facts that he personally didn't want to be reminded of...and so it has come to pass, with MattB being routinely censored for daring to point out true things about "speeding" that the car-haters find inconvenient and would rather weren't true (e.g. "Speed cameras kill"...damn them, why can't they just save lives, and then the motorist scum would just have to put up with them). After all, if you can't hack reality and desperately don't want something to be true, the next best thing to it being false is to pretend it's false and censor anyone who says otherwise, eh car-haters?

> BTW I have voted in the UK Usenetr Committee election. Guess who I have not > voted for!!!!! I would not make the same mistake twice!

There's no doubt that Jackson is an utter cnut. People like him and people like Chapman cause the real problems on groups like urc.

> Trevor A Panther > on urc

It's always good when a longstanding poster criticises the clique, as the clique can't simply dismiss them with silly names like "troll" as an excuse for not addressing their points...instead, they've got to grudgingly pretend to take the criticism seriously. Let's see what insincere crap they come up with for this thread.