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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!69.16.177.242.MISMATCH!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe29.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Cyclists going through red traffic lights Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:35:15 +0000 References: <72h0pkFpshmdU1@mid.individual.net>	<81da1a72-951c-4473-99db-d16f48840e19@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>		<568f6f67-f856-4720-ad59-c45abbc27ad1@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>	<72h8tnFq0600U1@mid.individual.net>					<6aVwl.100376$2t6.58720@newsfe28.ams2>			<5-6dnYpicdy_TFnUnZ2dnUVZ8jeWnZ2d@bt.com> <20090321145005.602f29ea@bluemoon>   Lines: 47 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.12.82.202 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe29.ams2 1237656949 86.12.82.202 (Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:35:49 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:35:49 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3416 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:690523

Tony Dragon wrote: > _ wrote: >> Rob Morley wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:36:20 -0000 >>> "Adam Lea"  wrote: >>> >>>> I am interested to know how the percentage can be so >>>> high given that as soon as one car stops at the lights the cars >>>> behind are forced to do the same. >>> It's the number that go through given the opportunity - obviously if >>> the car in front is one that stops then all behind will stop, but if >>> the one in front doesn't stop the next one has a choice. This is >>> probably why motorists get so pissed off at red light jumping cyclists, >>> who can generally filter to the front of the queue and go whenever they >>> want. I generally obey traffic signals whether I'm driving or cycling, >>> and I really don't see what the problem is, >> >> Okay. Well thats your choice, of course. >> >>> but apparently lots of people are not paying attention, >> >> The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean? >> >>> not aware of the law, >> >> The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean? >> >>> not in control of their vehicles, >> >> The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean? >> >>> lacking social conscience, >> >> The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean? >> >>> much too important to slow down ... >> >> The cyclist RLJ'er, you mean? >> I know, these sodding cyclists are real antisocial twats, aint they? >>> > > I'm sure that some are. > Its a shame that those who are also seem to be those that use newsgroups. I cant help thinking that drivers would have less contempt for lawbreaking cyclists if they thought that the rest of the cycling community dissaproved too.