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On Sep 22, 11:30 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > 51°30'5.97"N, 0° 9'31.77"W > > Drum shaped building, festooned with aerials. > > Guy > --http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk > > "To every complex problem there is a solution which is > simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

Please note that Guy Chapman is an *extremely* nasty piece of work, and none of you would want to associate with him if you knew what he was really like. Please, for your own sake, take a few moments to read why. He may appear like a decent person to you, but that is a disguise and nothing more (Harold Shipman and many other hardcore scumbags over the years have appeared more than decent). You owe it to yourself to read on.

Chapman, 56, has previously admitted that he hates motorists so much that he is prepared to advocate *any and all* anti-motorist measures, even those which have killed thousands of people over the last 15 years. Yes, it's true, thoroughly shocking though it may be: he is for motorists. It's all there in black and white. He really does hate motorists that much.
 * actually prepared to kill people* in order to make things difficult

The statistics show unequivocally just how many people these measures have killed, yet the sick, sick, *sick* Chapman still supports them in the full knowledge of the carnage that they have created, while making pathetic excuses (which he quite obviously doesn't believe himself) about how "other things" supposedly account for the loss of trend caused by the anti-motorist measures, despite it being *entirely* obvious to anyone that that's not the case (a bit like when cigarette companies claim that their products don't cause lung cancer; their vested interest is money, while Chapman's vested interest is his hatred of motorists). He couldn't care less about the thousands of deaths that result from the anti-motorist measures; his only concern is that motorists are given hell. Nice guy, eh?

When anyone points these things out, tells the truth about the real "safety" record of his beloved anti-motorist measures, or in any way hinders his unbelievably callous campaign by disseminating true facts, he responds with hateful, vile bile, sneering obnoxiousness, and obfuscation, deception and evasiveness, in a desperate effort to distract from those awkward true facts, and stop people finding out just what a monster he really is. He has *never* been known to respond to criticism or opposition calmly and with logic and truth, because he knows that his point of view is totally indefensible, and he knows that his pretence that he is interested in road safety is nothing more than a dirty, ugly, wretched lie. His "debating" style is so consistently unacceptable and deliberately stifling that he has been banned from every cycling-related forum, hence his plaguing of usenet, as the only place where no-one can do anything about his unwanted presence.

If he actually admitted to hating motorists, and that he was prepared to kill people to achieve his aims, then at least you could say he was honest. But he's not. You have to ask yourself: if he's so ashamed of his vicious and bloody anti-motorist campaign that he denies that he's even conducting it, why is he so doggedly determined to continue with it at all costs? Why does he hate people so much that he's that hellbent on inflicting widespread misery on motorists, *and* killing people in order to do so? Why is he prepared to put his family at risk by advocating anti-motorist measures which he *knows* are dangerous to all road users? What started his crazy campaign in the first place? Why would he have *such* a problem with such a large and diverse group of people, whose only "crime" is travelling? And how on that would concern you or I so much? Is he even human? As with terrorists, you've got to wonder just how any human being could be so utterly heartless, despicable, and hateful towards his fellow men.
 * Earth* can he sleep at night? How can he be so blase about things

He may outwardly appear to be a respectable person. But that's just part of his scheming, calculating campaign. He figures that if he cycles, sings (badly), puts up a pompous "official"-looking website, and sets himself up as a supposed road safety campaigner, then people won't twig what he's really up to. But unfortunately, people have twigged, and as you can imagine, he's none too happy about it. Some of the stuff that he's said to people who have simply reported true facts beggars belief. His vicious, foul, criminal and deeply personal hate campaign against one leading road safety campaigner (a real one) arguably contributed to that person's untimely death. The things he says on usenet to those who dare to challenge his lies are nothing short of revolting, and are completely irrelevant and false, ranging from allegations about people having been banned from driving, right up to accusations of paedophilia. Yes, really. Ask him yourself, if you're prepared to receive a tirade of abuse in return.

Those things, of course, together with his general evasiveness and underhand "discussion" tactics, are all done deliberately, in an incredibly feeble and futile attempt to avoid answering difficult points. But all it does it make him look all the more guilty. You only have to look at his last hundred posts on uk.rec.cycling (more accurately named uk.rec.anti-motorist on some servers) to see how much of the time he deliberately and blatantly avoids answering difficult questions. Anyone who is intelligent, open-minded, and not anti- motorist themselves cannot possibly fail to see it.

(For example, he was asked what would bother him more: a motorcyclist being decapitated by piano wire, or a cyclist being decapitated by piano wire. He refused to answer, making up some nonsense about a "false dilemma".  The real story, of course, is that the cyclist being decapitated would bother him *much* more, and he was too much of a lying coward to say so.  "False dilemma" my foot: would he have any problem saying which would bother him more out of his daughter being electrocuted, and a felon being electrocuted?  Of course not.  The "false dilemma" excuse only surfaces when he wants to get out of answering something.  It doesn't work, of course, because it's entirely obvious to everyone what he's playing at.  Like most arrogant people, Chapman consistently underestimates the intelligence of others, with the result that such nasty, disingenuous little ploys invariably backfire.)

Guy J Chapman. A bad man. Do not trust him, do not fall for the "respectable" rubbish, and treat him as you would any terrorist. Because that's what he is. Terrorists think it's OK to kill people in order to force their warped ideals onto everyone else, and Chapman fits that description exactly, thinking nothing of the thousands of deaths which have so far been caused by the anti-motorist measures that he holds so close to his heart of stone. A person who is passionately hated by countless Internet users ("but they're mostly motorist scum, so that's all right," thinks the deranged Chapman). A loathsome, thoroughly offensive individual. A dangerous, reprehensible, abhorrent killer. You have been warned.