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On Jun 30, 9:14=A0pm, "David Kemper"  wrote: > "Tom Crispin"  wrote in message > > news:duqk45tjdjlc7ajdofcj9k7in3pqgoa245@4ax.com... > > > Rather like a cycle helmet, moderation is a last resort. =A0I don't > > think that we are there yet. > > > This group has been on a journey over the last month. > > > I would like to see a moratorium on the moderation debate for at least > > six months to see if we can recover urc. > > Me too. > > As a long time lurker, I would like to see urc continue, with the full > complement of posters, including judith, nuxy, nully etc. > I enjoy some of the threads they start or contribute to. The banter and > baiting gives the group a vibrant feel.

Thank you David. It's good that some of the lurkers are now feeling able to come forward and be honest about what they want; no doubt they realise that they risk being abused by the usual suspects for such honesty, but I see this as a possible turning point. Maybe, as Tom says, this discussion in itself will help URC. Maybe people will no longer let the more obnoxious posters bully them into not saying certain things for fear of reprisals.

> I could probably manage quite happily without Guy, who I find very > irritating. > (Sorry Guy, but IMHO you really are obnoxiously arrogant a lot of the tim= e).

Regrettably, you're spot on. It's quite clear to me that Chapman is by far the single person who causes the most problems on URC.