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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!x5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <52c0fb8a-f39b-434d-ba09-3e333379f625@x5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Keep right at chicane. Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:04:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <2YSdndZTQdvK-s3XnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk>   <59ca5f79-a5e7-496e-a05d-09fbebe5b33a@y7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <6cb59a85-8b22-4c0b-b200-966cbe6b3d50@d32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <65u355ds2tn4nou5mht0bmn5ekbs3rt466@4ax.com>  Lines: 30 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.163.209.43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246943049 25206 127.0.0.1 (7 Jul 2009 05:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: x5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.163.209.43; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2851 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:715313

On Jul 6, 5:33=A0pm, "Simon Mason"  wrote: > "Judith M Smith"  wrote in messagenews:65u355ds2= tn4nou5mht0bmn5ekbs3rt466@4ax.com... > > > > >>I *have* been overtaken there on that very spot. I was shouted at by a > >>taxi driver who tried to barge past as I was riding to the left of the > >>speed cushion. The fact that I was riding at 20mph and it is a 20mph > >>speed limit did not seem to matter. > > > I suppose the sensible approach would of course be to cycle to the > > left of the bollard. > > > Still - if you want to make a point and be killed than that will be > > your choice. > > No, you are wrong. The *sensible* choice is for the taxi driver to keep t= o > the speed limit and not overtake in such a stupid place, of course. Cycli= ng > to the left of the bollard would disobey the keep right sign.

FFS! Can you honestly not differentiate between a technical triviality (exceeding The Holy Speed Limit) and genuinely bad driving (overtaking in a blatantly inappropriate place)? Why do you insist on distorting the road safety debate by implying that the former is as bad as the latter, when you must surely know really that it's not, and that millions of responsible drivers do the former (but not the latter) every day?