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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe25.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Troll Drawings Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:34:04 +0000 References: 			<222sk4106tmg9itd87v7v7072bm1m2lb72@4ax.com>				<42vuk45t29pbe7lkific984gvt3fn65ogp@4ax.com>	<9t0vk4hpkfgp2cpibfrgq27md8bhk1jq80@4ax.com>		<20081223085451.591c5c91@bluemoon>	 <20081223102347.607191bc@bluemoon> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20081223102347.607191bc@bluemoon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe25.ams2 1230028463 82.21.204.127 (Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:34:23 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:34:23 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 2470 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:681743

Rob Morley wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:15:03 +0000 > "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:54:51 +0000, Rob Morley  >> said in <20081223085451.591c5c91@bluemoon>: >> >>> ISTM the question is "are you condoning red light jumping?" Surely >>> that's simple enough to answer? No need to consider whether a >>> reasonable case can be made for changing the current law, or that >>> some cyclists may consider themselves so inconvenienced or >>> endangered that they consider it worth taking the chance of breaking >>> it. >> Well, no, the original issue was: are all criticisms of red light >> jumping valid - and the answer to that is a definite no. > > OK - let me rephrase it: "Are you condoning red light jumping?" > Simple question, simple answer (or is that too much to expect?) > Yes, it *is* too much to expect.