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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news2.euro.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: "Just zis Guy, you know?"  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Re: On the subject of contentious addeda Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:44:22 -0000 References:  <4o3ge5pgb1ei65dea0fivjdad56go74tmt@4ax.com> <016ge59uqb8mkvddtanj66otiaqml3agkk@4ax.com> <7kr55uF39pa6kU1@mid.individual.net>  <7kr8kfF3avk0oU1@mid.individual.net>  <7krdlcF3arp8qU1@mid.individual.net> Lines: 56 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.13 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091028-0, 28/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 80cafdc1.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=U5f^eckl178<\dXg9]Wc52nok4Z\, deadmailbox@beeb.net says... > > "Simon Brooke"  wrote in message > news:ee0ce9aa-5a74-47f5-88ca-9d508ea7ca7c@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... > > On 28 Oct, 16:09, "The Todal"  wrote: > >> > >> They have been raised, I thought, because of Guy's assertion that the > >> moderated group would prevent trolling. I'm still trying to understand > >> how > >> the moderation guidelines will prevent trolling (and what a troll is). > > > > I have to say I find your last sentence there pleasingly and elegantly > > self referential. > > > > Faux Naivete is the essence - the core skill - of elegant trolling. > > Assumed innocence (which morphs quickly into assumed offended > > innocence when challenged) plays well to the gallery. The problem is > > we're old hands. I personally have been using Usenet for quarter of a > > century; others of the moderation panel, I think, longer. We've seen > > trolls beside whom the trolls of today are mere shadows. So you can be > > as falsely naive as you want to, and all we'll do is say, 'aye, > > right'. > > > > In summary: sorry, old chap, but I'm not playing. > > Okay, have it your way. In summary: sorry, old chap, but you're an arrogant > tosser and you're certainly not fit to be a moderator. Don't worry - I > won't be posting to your group, though. Hope the rest of the team are better > than you are, and that they swiftly see the sense in evicting you.

Some of them are somewhat better than he is (Danny Colyer for example); some, including the repulsive, loathsome "head honcho", are most definitely not. I'm sorry that you've had to find out the hard way just what obnoxious wankers these people are, but at least when someone with your experience comes on here and genuinely tries to help by telling it how it is, they can't be immediately dismissed as a "troll" in the same way as most people who dare to oppose The Regime in any way.

Oh, hang on, you have been dismissed as a troll. Well that really does sum up the likes of Brooke, Jackson and Clinch. No-one, but no-one, is allowed to offer up anything but fawning praise, and certainly not (gasp) criticism of any kind. No-one, but no-one, is allowed to disagree with the "party line" on cycle helmets, anti-motorist measures or anything else. The level of arrogance and the utter refusal to accept any proportion of blame regarding anything whatsoever is nothing short of breathtaking. I've literally never seen such a bunch of utter fuckwits in charge of anything (and yes, that includes Liebour, aka the Chapman Party).

Well done for sticking around and persevering for as long as you did. And now that you've seen just what a shower of shite URCM is, and just how suspect the motives of the "moderators" are, please do use any influence you have to get the group removed. Usenet doesn't need groups which only exist so that certain true facts that some people find unpalatable can be routinely censored.