Nuxx:Fb115c6a-41e2-4f42-8328-2a0694209537@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Anti-Motorist Measures Are Everywhere: IT'S OFFICIAL Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:46:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <97fd881e-1847-40cc-a715-6321cd5c99dd@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <6tkt34dr0gdlaaoqu34kmec7h0sn9kfjjf@4ax.com> Lines: 36 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.217.66 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1212374780 18246 127.0.0.1 (2 Jun 2008 02:46:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 02:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.217.66; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008051206 Firefox/3.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3138 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:651629

On May 29, 5:18=A0pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2008 04:02:27 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar >  said in > <97fd881e-1847-40cc-a715-6321cd5c9...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: > > >Who do you believe? =A0The Mayor of London, or a bunch of lying, > >extremist, lycra-clad, car-hating fucktards who are too cowardly and > >pathetic to even admit what they really think? > > Do you live or work in London? =A0I do. =A0The congestion charge was one > of the best things that ever happened to the city. =A0

Yes, it's great isn't it? The amount of traffic has fallen, but the amount of congestion has gone back up to what it was before the charge was introduced, and the charge isn't actually raising any money at all because it's so inefficiently administered.

I can't see how anyone but a car-hating twat would be pleased about traffic levels falling despite congestion remaining the same. (And how is it that congestion has remained the same in spite of falling traffic levels? That's right, because of measures designed to hinder traffic flow, in other words the ANTI-MOTORIST MEASURES which apparently don't exist.)

And Spindrift and his pathetic hangers-on aren't at all pleased about Boris winning. Boris dares to suggest that it's possible to make things better for cyclists *and* motorists, and as far as Spindrift (and you) are concerned, it's not enough to make things better for cyclists; things must be made worse for motorists as well, and the two groups must be played off against one another.

Something tells me that you're not keen on Boris' policy to rephase traffic lights in order to improve traffic flow (i.e. the reverse of what Livingstone did). In other words, it's yet another way in which you just happen to think exactly what a motorist-hater would. Uncanny isn't it?