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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e389e21$0$2489$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:02:25 +0100 References:  <1k5bgxw.rw6wlv1oxvzepN%NEWS@sarlet.com>  <1k5e0un.1nekh9m1si21dsN%NEWS@sarlet.com>  Lines: 73 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 8054d332.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=0FM?9G;SPgGcQDiXV^P_=C0g@SS;SF6nGR9OH0:RnEND<2;RXiaHNbL`:ITG5aA:cG9TKT><?eLZM X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 4554 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:848367

On 02/08/2011 21:14, Tosspot wrote: > On 08/02/2011 08:36 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: >> Tosspot  wrote: >> >>> On 08/01/2011 11:35 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>> Art  wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> I hope someone can help me with my query, although it is not directly >>>>> cycling related. >>>>> I have previously made a few posts to the moderated cycling newsgoup >>>>> and had sensible exchanges with other people. However, something has >>>>> suddenly changed. I recently had two or three posts rejected as being >>>>> rude, a flame, and/or personal abuse. I didn't think that they were >>>>> at all, they were quite reasonable messages. Here are a couple of the >>>>> rejected posts: >>>>> >>>> snips >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I then had a response which said: "Thank you for your message. >>>>> However, we have not approved it because it appears to be from a >>>>> poster who has been blocked from posting to uk.rec.cycling.moderated. >>>>> If you don't know why please get in touch". >>>>> I emailed the moderators for further information but they have ignored >>>>> my request with no response. >>>> >>>> had a quick peak over to the moderated group and well they are going by >>>> the if it quacks like a duck it is a duck. >>>> >>>> by which I mean if your not judift /JMS then your a very good match for >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Note I don't say I agree! >>>> >>>> on the off chance your not a sock puppet. >>>> >>>> uk.rec.cycling.moderated is better to think of much more of a private >>>> club than a public server, this said looking at the volume of articals >>>> it looks like a every decreasing circle of people. >>>> >>>> Bit sad as this place is litter with trolls and I don't mean just one >>>> side as you where. >>> >>> I thought it was getting better, my killfile takes out about 98% of >>> posts, but the remainder seem good posts. But, interestingly, it means >>> urcm delivers slightly more posts per day than urc. So I suspect, that >>> my kf has removed all but urcm from urc iyswim. >> >> 60ish posts per week compared to the 1000 for UK.REC.CYCYLING, which is >> rather quiet, other healther groups have maybe 500ish > > Yeah, but having applied the fuckwit filter I get to 20 posts versus 60.

Wow, you must be really proud of yourself. Do you turn off the radio whenever someone says something that you disagree with? What about when someone proves you wrong in "real life"...do you petulantly refuse to talk to them ever again? If someone is so loathe to even talk about particular issues then that is rarely a sign that they are rational about those issues.

I shudder to think what a backward state humanity would be in if everyone in history had taken the same attitude as you towards anyone who dared to contradict them. I guess that you're an old man who's set in his ways and would rather carry on thinking the same things even if they're wrong...but do you have to boast about it like it's some kind of virtue?

Anyway, I'm glad you're happy with URCM (you would be), but I think it's great that URC has more tolerant posters who are actually prepared to discuss controversial issues than ever before. And if people like you find that so difficult to tolerate then that's just a sign that I'm right about things going well.