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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!m24g2000vbp.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9a0f2fb5-b9f2-4a3a-bd4e-c89be3b9cab1@m24g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another motherless family? Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:24:51 -0700 (PDT) References:  Lines: 36 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.145.66.20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242523492 26177 127.0.0.1 (17 May 2009 01:24:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: m24g2000vbp.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.145.66.20; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2945 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:702008

On May 16, 9:08=A0pm, Tom Crispin  wrote: > Police were called on Friday evening May 15 to the junction of > Woolwich Road and the Kent-bound A102 in Greenwich following a > collision between a lorry and a female pedal cyclist, a police > spokesman said. > > London Ambulance Service attended. The woman was pronounced dead at > the scene. Police had not yet been able to establish her identity. > > The lorry did not stop at the scene. It is described as having blue > material (e.g. canvas, or plastic sheeting) on its side. Anyone who > witnessed the collision or has information that may assist police > should call the Collision Investigation Unit at Catford Traffic Garage > on 020 8285 1574. > > Greenwich Cyclists have placed a white bike and flowers at the scene. > > www.britishschoolofcycling.com/photos/whitebike.jpg

So what is the position of car-haters on lorries? Are they "OK" or not? Presumably they are, since otherwise shops wouldn't get deliveries etc, and even the car-haters aren't so short-sighted as to not see that. But don't all those anti-motorist measures that the car- haters advocate also impact on lorries?

What's the "solution", I wonder? Maybe lorries should be exempted from pointlessly low anti-motorist speed limits and cameras? Maybe they should be automatically given green lights at congestion-causing traffic lights? Maybe they should be allowed into anti-motorist bus lanes? Maybe pointless double yellow lines shouldn't apply to them? Or here's a revolutionary idea: why not GET RID OF THE FUCKING ANTI- MOTORIST MEASURES ALTOGETHER?

No answer? Can't defend your anti-motorist measures because you're too ashamed? Surprise surprise.