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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <5b60ccd9-d756-426f-aee3-30ea2ecc9568@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.net.news.config Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:08:42 -0700 (PDT) References:  <1j1tf12.v44mld1vw287bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <3r4545tgik6hiie4r5nreb8uj5cr5nr04e@4ax.com>   <7aoirbF1vfd9gU1@mid.individual.net>      Lines: 17 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.160.138.240 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246226922 17790 127.0.0.1 (28 Jun 2009 22:08:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.160.138.240; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2592 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:5883 uk.net.news.config:54364

On Jun 28, 6:18=A0pm, Tom Crispin  wrote: > > A great many people here are good people, and I have a great deal of > time for them and will listen to their argument. =A0However, I have real > concerns over the direction this is all heading towards. =A0I cannot > understand the objections people have to a democratic process to elect > those who will shape the new group.

I think really you can understand them, you'd just rather not face the fact that people like me are right and URCM is indeed being created by a clique for the sole reason that they want to suppress opinions which they don't want to read.

It's good that people like you are objecting, though, as it means that your points actually have to be addressed, and can't be conveniently sidestepped by using the "troll" accusation.