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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Ian Jackson's Bike Camera Videos Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:43:14 -0800 (PST) Lines: 39 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.71.49.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1299710594 24323 127.0.0.1 (9 Mar 2011 22:43:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=82.71.49.124; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Firefox/3.6.15,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3290 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:844006

I would be particularly interested to see what the "original URC cyclists" (e.g. Ian Smith, Rob "Bob Marley" Morley, Tony Raven, Clive George and Chapman) have to say about Ian Jackson's bike camera videos:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/bikecams/ (Text-only video player required)

Surely Jackson is blatantly going out with the express intention of obstructing and provoking drivers into committing "offences" so that he can video them, have a go at them and report them to the police? We know that Jackson is self-admittedly (unlike some) anti-motorist, and that, for example, he recommends always making an insurance claim against motorists when a collision occurs just to "make a political point", and that he thinks it's child abuse to (shock horror) carry a child in a car.

Is the antagonism of motorists clearly evident in Jackson's videos not just another way of "making a political point"? Why does he feel the need to take direct action against motorists like this simply because he disagrees with the majority view that cars are good for society overall? Surely he can't think cars are as dangerous as he claims if he is deliberately going out to cause conflict with them? Don't people like him make life immeasurably more difficult for "ordinary" cyclists, who really do just want to mind their own business and cycle from A to B as safely as possible, with the minimum of conflict, and only have bike cameras (if they do) just in case something bad happens? Isn't it people like him who give cyclists such a bad press, by giving the impression that all cyclists have a similar self- righteous interfering attitude?

And why on Earth did anyone in their right mind think that such an obvious extremist would make a good Chief Moderator of URCM? Why on Earth do some people, albeit much fewer now, *still* think that? I can understand why Chapman and Raven do, since they also hate cars (but sssh, it's a secret!), but it's more of a mystery with Kleiv Jawj et al. Regardless, it would be interesting to see if even a single person is prepared to defend Jackson's provocative behaviour in his videos, and/or claim that it is in any way good for the cycling cause.