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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <48b58c74-59f6-4390-bdb1-484e6166984c@a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Reporting motorists Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:46:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <4szxl.50490$cy5.27421@newsfe18.ams2>      <4b9fs4tfd81ppg907s18ek13j5ad7rlqu3@4ax.com> Lines: 51 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1237837604 26185 127.0.0.1 (23 Mar 2009 19:46:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.147; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 Firefox/3.0.7 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3703 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:691003

On Mar 23, 3:08=A0pm, Judith Smith  wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:34:55 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?" > >  wrote: > >On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:12:14 -0000, "mileburner" > > said in > >: > > >>I think that the problem is vulnerability. You expect other people to > >>realise that you are in a vulnerable situation and expect them to give = you > >>some space so that you remain safe. > > >Aye. =A0And it's explicitly stated in the Highway Code. =A0But you are > >right, we have to do their thinking for them some of the time, and > >some of them deeply resent finding out that they are wrong. > > >Guy > > Did you know a Dr Ian Walker did some cycle helmet research and found > that: > > "Drivers passed closer to the rider the further out into the road he > was." > > "The closer a driver is to the cyclist, the greater chance of a > collision." > > Meaning - the further out in to the road you are - then the more > chance there is of being hit. =A0Common sense as well. > > That is why it is sensible for cyclists to always keep well over > towards the gutter.

Sounds fair enough to me. Only a belligerent tosser would keep unnecessarily far out into the road just to impede and engineer conflicts with motorists. It constantly amazes me that the militant motorist-hating cyclists are so prepared to seriously compromise their own safety just to irritate drivers (e.g. by sitting unnecessarily far right, supporting speed cameras which they know make the roads more dangerous, supporting the banning of motorcycles from bus lanes which they also know makes things more dangerous, etc)...it really is an unbelievable level of spite, and shows (as if it wasn't already obvious) that they're absolute nutjobs whose foaming-at-the-mouth wish to make things hard for the motorist scum eclipses all common sense and logic. (Did someone say "Spindrift"?)

Of course, sitting unnecessarily far right to impede others isn't limited to cyclists...some motorists do it as well. Anyone who does that really is an utter fuckwit, and proves that (sadly) people whose main priority is obstructing others do indeed exist.