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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!wns11feed!worldnet.att.net!64.192.187.27!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!bigfeed3.bellsouth.net!news.bellsouth.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: "Just zis Guy, you know?"  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: IAM Cycle Safety presentations Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:18:16 +0100 References:           Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:18:29 -0500 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090621-0, 21/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-PmqHzaNqSV0L2UvQv8n0z0GqoY+3569RfTaQa3zshCUDh9/EOcWDEVmRMYVZybQQVtVT1oLth81VhxR!dIJwJvYqosbOcv4TEXDllcPx7riFAqOk9grnNw2iaKzCn+s57ORxcWyV7Cx8JfV36Z0z3cfoLr9u!TL8X X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 Bytes: 2679 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:711194

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:18:00 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:07:42 +0100, Mark > wrote: > >>That's a different point. You appeared to be saying that all people >>who drive at a "higher speed" are doing so because they overestimate >>their ability. In this thread we are talking about drivers with >>advanced training. I maintain that some highly trained drivers are >>capable of driving at a "higher speed" without signficant extra risk >>(if the conditions allow). > >I'm not quite sure what point you're making. Are you suggesting that >for a good driver, the additional speed brings no additional risk? I'm >guessing not. Or is it that you think a good driver may well consume >some of that benefit as additional speed? I don't think that's in >doubt.

Did you make the first Lou Knee post?