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On Aug 6, 5:21 pm, "nully"  wrote: > "Brian Robertson"  wrote in message > > news:K4kmk.138514$Lc6.59437@newsfe18.ams2...> "nully"  wrote in message > >news:n0kmk.108927$Lw1.83056@newsfe29.ams2... > > >> "Brian Robertson"  wrote in message > >>news:rKjmk.138475$Lc6.53683@newsfe18.ams2... > > >>> Personally, I HAVE been saved from injury by a helmet and, on another > >>> occasion, I nearly occasioned serious injury when a helmet would have > >>> probably kept me a lot safer. > > >> Dont drink so much? Just a thought... > > > I don't normally killfile people because it breaks up the conversations, > > but for you I will make an exception. > > Awwww. Sorry, didn't the other posters here know about your drinking and > driving a *bus*?

That's truly shocking, and it shows that the speed camera zealots are usually the very worst and most underskilled of the drivers out there, and that safety is the last thing on their mind. No doubt Robertson does other unsafe things as well, like deliberately pulling out in front of people to slow them down, blocking overtakers and speeding up to stop them getting past and/or slotting in in front, sitting in lane 3 of the motorway at 65mph and refusing to move over (thus encouraging passing on the left), swerving all over the place on roundabouts, not indicating unless he can see a benefit to himself, going slower than he otherwise would just to irritate people behind him (thus encouraging frustrated overtaking), and many other "up yours everyone"- type acts. He's probably even worse on a bicycle.

Still, driving a BUS intoxicated is simply unbelievable. I think "Glug" is a pretty restrained thing to call someone who put so many lives at risk through pure selfishness. ("But speeding puts lives at risk through pure selfishness," whinge the trolls predictably. Correct, except for the small matter of the "putting lives at risk" part, and the "pure selfishness" part as well, but the trolls have shown time and time and time again that the facts don't matter to them one iota.)

If you have a problem with alcohol, you're already putting enough of a strain on society, through being unable to hold down a job, needing costly NHS treatment due to liver damage etc, alienating your friends and family, prematurely dying, etc. (In many ways, you'd be better off being addicted to heroin, like Spindrift.)  But it takes a special kind of callous, sick bastard to drive a fucking bus while you're tanked up. If I ever get on a bus and the driver's name badge says "Brian", I'm getting the hell off again. I wouldn't need to take such precautions if Robertson was in jail, which is where he bloody well should be.

The very least that Robertson can do to make amends is to hang his head in shame and stop this ridiculous campaign against motorists, in recognition that buses, and bus drivers, can be just as dangerous as any road user (and if he's in any doubt of that, he just needs to look into the mirror, if he can bear to).

Absolutely unbelievable. A *bus* FFS. But will the trolls condemn him? No chance. With the trolls, it's not about what a person says or does, it's about who they are, and whether they're anti-motorist enough. Hence when I or any of the other anti-camera people say something true, however politely, we get abuse from Crapman and co, but when one of the pro-camera people does something really bad (say, driving a bus while under the influence), the trolls simply pretend that they haven't even read it. Safety isn't something that's remotely important to them; they use it solely as an excuse to support cameras and other anti-motorist measures. And very clearly, safety isn't something that's remotely important to Robertson either, who really should Glug-ger off.