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On Jul 29, 6:35=A0am, Rob Morley  wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) > > Doug  wrote: > > This is what can happen to motorists who deliberately ram cyclists. > >  > > So the cyclists responded with criminal damage and assault - what a > shining example they set.

Quite. Yet Doug doesn't complain about that, he only complains about the motorist's behaviour. Cyclists can do no wrong; motorists can do no right. Such attitudes only contribute to the "us and them" mentality between cyclists and motorists.

And let's face it, those cyclists were clearly looking for trouble, and were happy when a motorist bit. I'm sure we've all seen groups of cyclists who go round antagonising motorists in order to pick fights. If they would just do what normal, non-militant motorists and cyclists do, and mind their own business and concentrate on getting from A to B without interfering with others and trying to punish them for using the "wrong" mode of transport, we'd all be so much better off. But the idea of all road users (including motorists) getting along with each other, and not being unnecessarily impeded or discriminated against, is something that the likes of Doug, Spindrift and Chapman simply can't abide (although at least Doug is big enough to admit it).