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On 23/07/2011 11:54, Simon Mason wrote: > On Jul 23, 8:54 am, Bertie Wooster  wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:17:58 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR >> >>  wrote: >>>> He can't, he bottled. >> >>> Are you sure you are actually a teacher? Did you buy your degree from >>> some weird American university? >> >> Are you now claiming that you didn't bottle it? > > Medway admits he was not there. > FM posted a picture of himself at the Dover waterfront. > End of, I'd have thought.

I find this whole argument rather tedious, but you must know that that's far from "end of" as it could have been taken at any time.

It seems that (unsurprisingly I guess) people are just believing whoever they want to. It's particularly the case that those who generally oppose TMH are determined to believe that he "bottled" it, and aren't really interested in establishing what actually happened. Just like they're determined to believe that helmets don't save lives, or that speed cameras do save lives, etc, and aren't really interested in establishing the reality of the situation (and indeed some are extremely and notoriously aggressive towards anyone who does try to).