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On Jul 30, 10:58=A0pm, "Adam Lea"  wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar > >  said in > > <3298778d-9d0c-4eb2-a17f-fa6397de0...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > >>As I said, your insinuation that drivers in general are prepared to > >>constantly put others at risk just to get there quicker > > Like this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRskfMvBKd8g

Ah yes, one of the motorist-haters' usual tactics: making out that just because one driver does something bad, the same thing applies to drivers in general.

I notice that the motorist-haters don't go round insinuating that all cyclists are selfish, red light-jumping, pavement-mounting twats who deliberately pick fights with motorists, vandalise cars at the drop of a hat, purposely impede motorists and motorcyclists who legally use bus lanes, wobble about in the middle of the lane and suddenly veer over without signalling, and think they're morally infinitely superior to every other type of road user (especially motorists). They recognise that that would be a ridiculous thing to do, since only a minority of cyclists (e.g. Spindrift) are that obnoxious. So why do they tar all motorists in the same brush? Oh yeah, they're motorist- haters....

I wish the militants would just realise that if they only showed basic courtesy to motorists, and stopped giving them a hard time just for driving, then their own journeys would be made infinitely easier in return. Next time a driver doesn't leave a gap for you on the left at traffic lights, just remember that it's probably because some militant twit has pissed him off, and he's taking it out on other cyclists. That may not be right, but it's the (militant) cyclists who have started this war between them and motorists, and it's up to them to stop it by making an effort to cooperate.

(Unfortunately, it may well be the case that the militants *do* realise that pissing off motorists makes their own journeys more difficult, but they choose to do it anyway. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.)