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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e1f3cef$0$2496$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Boris rejects 20mph limit Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:01:01 +0100 References:  <4e1e08b5$0$2932$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> <28774f8c-8296-4b4f-9b5d-50dd27104efc@j25g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> <4e1e0df7$0$2938$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk> <77d30241-75b1-49ba-8391-79df5a8c9b4f@m18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> Lines: 59 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77d30241-75b1-49ba-8391-79df5a8c9b4f@m18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 51447e6c.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=ln=L[Y0F3Inn:A2G\9[PMg0g@SS;SF6ngR9OH0:RnENdZ?2j:BGS9Yb`:ITG5aA:cgQC On Jul 13, 10:28 pm, Nuxx Bar  wrote: >> On 13/07/2011 22:11, Simon Mason wrote: >> >>> On Jul 13, 10:05 pm, Nuxx Bar  wrote: >>> Maybe when well-meaning >>>> but frankly gullible people like Tom Crispin and Simon Mason stop >>>> falling for their dishonesty.... Tom and Simon, if Jenny Jones and co >>>> were calling for it then would you support a 15mph limit on that bridge >>>> (if such a limit could be enforced), and if not, why not? How about a >>>> 40mph NSL on single carriageways...again, why not? >> >>> Thank your lucky stars things are not as severe here as in other >>> countries as I have said many times before. >> >> Yes, you have. Now how about answering the questions that I put to you? >> Unless you don't want to for some reason? > > Well, Nuxxy. > We would all like to be able to do what we like and hang the rest of > society. > You wish to drive as fast as you like and to smoke pot as much as you > want.

Dead wrong in both cases, and verging on libellous. Your posts are making less and less sense lately. It's a good example of what happens when a mostly reasonable person insists on sticking to an unreasonable position on a particular topic, no matter how much evidence is paraded in front of him.

> Society however has imposed limitations on all of us, for the greater > good and like it or not, that is the way it is. > Once you realise that, you will cease to be an angry young man and > start to enjoy life without the illegal drugs.

You know, I'm starting to see why so many people on this newsgroup attack you. That was incredibly patronising and pompous. Not that it's any of your business, but I haven't used anything illegal for the best part of a decade, which should give you a clue that I'm also not particularly "young" anymore. However I don't care what other people do on that front; it doesn't affect me, or you (so it's not "hang the rest of society"). No doubt you think that a successful person using the odd spliff at home is the same as shoplifting.

And this coming from the guy who seems to have a mild alcohol problem...I wonder how you'd react if they brought prohibition back, and were told it was "for the greater good" and "that's the way it is"? Shouldn't you be kept away from alcohol if you're going to exceed the weekly unit "limits" and eventually end up costing the NHS because of that? Or should it be up to you what you put into your own body?

And as well as the rubbish that you've held forth above, you *still* haven't answered my questions. I think we know why: you can't think of any logical reason for supporting a 20mph limit on Blackfriars Bridge, but not a 15mph one (and you don't have the grace to admit it). In other words, your "thinking" on the subject is completely arbitrary, and that just won't do when it comes to a matter as important as road safety. Also, I bet you can't think of any logical reason for prohibiting cannabis and not alcohol, and *that* won't do either.