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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <09532da1-63a8-4ba1-8f00-1cadf30b3404@g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Why Is Chapman *So* Despised? Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 61 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.154.122.73 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1240425093 24818 127.0.0.1 (22 Apr 2009 18:31:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.154.122.73; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4586 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:828939

It was commented the other day that I don't give the likes of David Damerell anywhere near as much of a hard time as Chapman, despite such people being as anti-motorist as Chapman. I thought the question of why Chapman attracts people's hatred so much more than those whose views he shares deserved its own thread.

Simon Mason and many others are in favour of speed cameras. Yet, while I think that they're dead wrong and possibly that they've been brainwashed, I and others manage to conduct polite and interesting discussions with them.

David Damerell, Doug, Glug and others are as anti-motorist as Chapman. Yet, while I may make fun of them at times and comment on their idiocy and fuckwittedness (at least in Glug's case), I and others never attack and despise them in the same way as we do Chapman.

Spindrift and others are, like Chapman, motorist-haters who "cleverly" deny that they're anti-motorist as part of their "masterplan". Spindrift has said and done some undeniably vile things. Yet none of them attract anywhere near as much derision and hatred as Chapman.

Like Chapman, others lie, deceive, twist the facts and try to evade their opponents' points in order to attempt to railroad through arguments which they know to be incorrect in order to support some hidden agenda. Others are thoroughly obnoxious, arrogant and infuriating people who do their best to keep things on the boil. Others label as "trolls" anyone who disagrees with their stated position. Others pretend to own discussion groups when they don't, attempt to censor their opponents through various means, and tell people off for replying to the "wrong" posters. Others abuse their administrator status on Wikipedia and other sites. Others are renowned trolls who are banned from every forum that they've ever set foot in. Others accuse people of making abusive phone calls which never even happened. A small number of others even advocate measures which they know to be killing people.

Yet, the Internet over, Chapman comes out again and again as *the* person who is, hands down, the most detested wherever he goes. Why is this? Clearly (at least to everyone except him and his pathetic, salivating sycophants), it is as a result of his behaviour, rather than that of those who dislike him so much. So what is it about Chapman's behaviour which pisses off *so* many Internet users in so many different places, if none of the above deficiencies are unique to him? Is it because he's the only one who *all* those deficiencies apply to? Is there something particularly offensive about his general manner? What is it that makes so many people despise him so very much? Why do we have so many forum and newsgroup threads and posts, web pages, complaints, emails, etc all on the topic of how much people hate this one individual and how they intend to make his life difficult as a result?

If only he would start addressing some of these points, and making genuine efforts to improve his behaviour instead of pretending that it "must be everyone else's fault", he would find that he was no longer as widely hated. But of course he won't; not only is he far too arrogant to admit, even to himself, that his conduct is anything but perfect, but he actually seems to enjoy his infamy. I guess he knows it's the only way that he'll ever get the attention that he thinks he deserves.

So...why is Chapman so despised?