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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4526f90a-98ab-4e84-b005-75cb825d9c02@e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.net.news.config Subject: Re: Pre-RFD: uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 00:32:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <2lc*4xWHs@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>  <59SdnYpB4-M5yoDXnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d@pipex.net>  Lines: 61 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.251.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1243495920 21006 127.0.0.1 (28 May 2009 07:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 07:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.251.27; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4278 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:3917 uk.net.news.config:51927

On May 27, 6:07 pm, Tom Crispin  wrote: > On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:09:25 +0100, "Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote: > > >"jms"  wrote in message > >news:eikq15lg3qkhh0h22cjdlb6ttbvheuh4t7@4ax.com... > >> On 26 May 2009 17:25:06 +0100 (BST), Ian Jackson > >>  wrote: > > >> > > >>>uk.rec.cycling has for some time been suffering from an infestation of > >>>trolls, nym-shifters and forgeries. Many of these posters are hostile > >>>to cycling. There has even been real-world harassement such as > >>>abusive late night phone calls. > > >> Being hostile to the views of cyclists does not make someone hostile > >> to cycling. > > >> Have you any proof of any real-world harassment such as abusive late > >> night phone calls? > > >> Anyone who will take the word of one poster against that of another - > >> without even acknowledging and saying that the accusation is purely > >> "alleged" - and is certainly not proven, cannot be fit to be a > >> moderator. > > >> I therefore object to Ian Jackson being a moderator. > > >I also object to Ian Jackson being a moderator based on the proposed > >criteria for moderation. > > I also object to Ian Jackson being a moderator based on his using his > killfile in his pre-RFD.

Oh dear. One of the "regulars", who can't possibly be dismissed as a "troll" and/or killfiled, has objected as well now. It's all falling apart, and all because Jackson is *so* scared of reading opposing POVs that he won't even not use his killfile for a single thread.

It must be awful to be so petrified of reading or hearing anything that you disagree with. When Jackson is reading the paper, does he suddenly stop reading an article the second that someone who he disagrees with is quoted? When he's watching TV, does he chuck the remote at it in a rage every time someone says something that he doesn't agree with? Does he angrily and dangerously start fiddling with the radio when he's driving his evil car and someone says something that he disagrees with? What if he's in the pub and someone says something that he doesn't agree with? Does he start trying to gag them, or knock them out, or something else?

And just *why* would someone be so scared of reading opposing POVs? Is Jackson so insecure about the veracity of his opinions that he thinks that reading one opposing opinion will convert him there and then? Does he *really* believe that the world would be better off if everyone agreed with him on absolutely everything? What's it all about? Why is he such an arrogant fuckwit? Who knows. He's obviously not going to tell me, because (big man that he is) he's killfiled me, along with 99% of other people by now I would have thought (after all, you disagree with him once about anything, and you're plonked).