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On Feb 11, 5:48=A0pm, "Wm..."  wrote: > > Who are these people?

I don't see much point, unless you're contending that the people concerned don't exist at all. I'm not going to bother providing an exhaustive list, but those currently using URC who called URCM "unusable", still use URCM and condone the way it's being run include Chapman and Simon Mason off the top of my head. Maybe you as well for that matter.

I can't remember whether Rob Morley actually called URC "unusable" but he uses both URC and URCM, though he has reservations about URCM's "moderation". Ian Smith also springs to mind, though he doesn't use URCM due to being one of the many who are dissatisfied with the current regime. The inimitable Trevor A Panther is, I think, in the same boat.

I'm sure there are others, but the point is that they exist, they are using a group which they repeatedly said it was impossible to use, and I'm wondering what their thinking is. And yes, frankly, I think you- know-who always saw URCM as a place where he could "hide" from his opponents and put forward his anti-car opinions without being challenged, but realised quite early on that he was missing fighting people like Derek C on URC, so that's why he came back. URCM for when he doesn't want to be proven wrong, URC for when he fancies an argument. Do you think I'm wrong about that? (Any chance of an answer which makes sense? ;-) )