Nuxx:9d63aef7-794d-46c2-af88-eaab9b946881@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <9d63aef7-794d-46c2-af88-eaab9b946881@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: "False Dilemma" Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 41 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.206.99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222395802 1005 127.0.0.1 (26 Sep 2008 02:23:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.206.99; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3204 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:669188

A while ago, Chapman refused to answer the following question, claiming that it was a "false dilemma":

"Which would bother you more: a cyclist being decapitated by piano wire, or a motorcyclist being decapitated by piano wire?"

Presumably, then, he would also refuse to answer the following questions for the same "reason":

"Which would bother you more: your daughter being electrocuted, or a felon being electrocuted?"

"Which would bother you more: your wife being shot, or a soldier being shot?"

"Which would bother you more: getting cancer, or getting a paper cut?"

But of course he would be quite happy to answer those questions, and his answer in each case would be the former. His answer to the first question would also be the former, of course, the only difference being that he didn't want to provide such an answer (something to do with him not wanting to admit to being anti-motorist), so he made up the "false dilemma" bollocks (and, as ever, was sycophantically and unquestioningly supported by his troll-minions, who are no doubt annoyed that I have yet again shown them up with simple, irrefutable logic, and will no doubt prove it by posting "Don't feed the troll" and other highly innovative, useful replies).

Fed up with me effortlessly running rings around you, trolls? It's very simple: stop lying, and stop supporting other people's lies. I can't possibly show up the gaping holes in your reasoning if there aren't any. (You have to admit that this post, among others, has been pretty effective and succinct in comprehensively exposing how wrong you've been about something. I appreciate that you can't be too happy about that, as no-one likes being made to look foolish, but rather than taking it out on me, the best way to stop it happening again would be to become honest and reasonable in your approach.  First step: stop lying about being anti-motorist.  Second step: stop automatically jumping to Chapman's defence no matter how wide of the mark he is.  OK?  Thanks in advance.  I think we've made progress today, and I'm very pleased about that.)