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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <84a3d5f9-a348-48f8-9336-83150b285202@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,cam.transport Subject: Re: Anther Gem from the DfT Stats for 2007 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:24:31 -0700 (PDT) References:    <7j31r5-r63.ln1@bigjohn.hug>   Lines: 38 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.206.99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222525472 19754 127.0.0.1 (27 Sep 2008 14:24:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.206.99; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.2) Gecko/2008091620 Firefox/3.0.2,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3396 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:669341

On Sep 27, 11:01=A0am, judith  wrote: > On 27 Sep 2008 07:36:13 GMT, Ian Smith  wrote: > > >On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Paul Oldham  wrote: > > >> =A0In all seriousness I know the point you're driving at > > >She's a self-confessed lying troll. =A0The only point she is driving at > >is to get a response. =A0Please don't encourage it. > > >regards, =A0 Ian SMith > > Thank you for your considered opinion Ian - are there some facts in > the latest DfT stats which are unpalatable to you? - just ignore them > - they'll go away ;-)

It's a common theme round here unfortunately. See a "difficult" fact, ignore it and pretend that you haven't seen it, and instead call its poster a "troll". Do these people go through their whole lives ignoring truths that they don't like? If so, it's hard to see how they ever improve themselves in any way. If they won't ever admit to being wrong about anything, won't ever learn from their mistakes, and always shoot the messenger whenever they hear something they don't want to, it's likely that they are (and always will be) unknowledgeable, opinionated, difficult to deal with and unpopular. Whereas if they would just start acknowledging awkward truths and learning to live with and adapt to them, they would make things much, much easier for themselves and those around them in the long run.

(How far do you take it when you're like that? If there's a war on where you are, do you still behave as though there isn't, because you don't want there to be?  Do you call people "trolls" when they tell you there's a war on?  Generally, it's not really much of a way to live, nor is it much of a way to conduct yourself on the Internet, so snap out of it please trolls.  There are too many cyclists on pavements, there are lots of cyclists dying, and speed cameras kill people; you just need to accept and deal with such things.  Thanks in advance.)