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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40abfe78-9935-4dfe-bb43-4d96f283aff0@g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:14:14 -0700 (PDT) References:     Lines: 36 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.153.43.239 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246392854 1937 127.0.0.1 (30 Jun 2009 20:14:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g19g2000yql.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.153.43.239; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3349 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.config:54766 uk.rec.cycling:6202

On Jun 30, 11:44=A0am, Ian Jackson  wrote: > In article , > > Alan Braggins  wrote: > >In article , Ian Jackson wrote: > >>I am also strongly considering: > >>3. Remove `obscenity' from the list of things which are prohibited. > >> =A0 (`Personal abuse' and `flames' remain on the prohibited list.) > >> =A0 Perhaps replace it with `rudeness'; perhaps delete it entirely. > > >Is rudeness (or obscenity) which isn't personal abuse a problem which is > >putting off potential posters? If not, I don't think we should ban it. > > That is a very good argument.

What's putting off new posters (at least those of any value to URC) more than anything is the car-haters' attitude towards those who have certain opinions. So if you're genuinely serious about "not putting people off" (which of course you're not, you just want a private members' club where only certain points of view are allowed), you just need to ensure that all opinions are seen to be given the credit they deserve, and that if someone speaks the truth, they are not abused, shouted down and censored simply because some people find that particular truth unpalatable.

Simple, really. Much better than all this censorship-dressed-up-as- moderation bollocks. But of course then the result wouldn't be a private members' club where car-haters could spout their crap without fear of being corrected, would it? Much better to live in a fantasy world and keep pretending that certain awkward facts aren't true. You never know, they might really stop being true one day if you pretend for long enough. You certainly seem to think so. You "troll" (sorry, just indulging in the same name-calling that you like to employ against those who keep annoying you by speaking the truth about things).