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On Jun 17, 4:30=A0pm, Matt B  wrote: > spindrift wrote: > > > It could just be that Boris's ideas are crap, like allowing cyclists > > to left turn at red traffic lights, thus introducing conflict where > > there wasn't any before. > > That implies that you believe that the current *illegal* left turns at > red lights *don't* cause any conflict.

Quite. And if Livingstone had come up with that idea, Spindrift would have been all for it. Spindrift's opposition to Boris, like the LCC's, is purely political and anti-car, and nothing whatsoever to do with actual cycling.