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On Mar 24, 10:50=A0pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski >  said in > <31a98296-6aa7-44f8-a5c1-69bdafb71...@v39g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>: > > >> And who says you MUST ride the bike lanes? > > >Well, the state of Oregon, for one. =A0North Dakota, for another. =A0The= re > >are many others. > > Also Germany, thanks to a certain regime not known for their liberal > tolerance.

Here, we have car-haters like "Just zis Guy, you know?" lobbying for cycle lanes and then not using them (they only want the cycle lanes so that roadspace is removed from cars, and in fact they often refuse to use even good quality, accessible cycle lanes because they prefer to impede cars, despite putting themselves in danger).