Nuxx:05824635-5a06-4969-9460-59ff7ba8ec97@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <05824635-5a06-4969-9460-59ff7ba8ec97@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Mike Vandeman Nominated for the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT) References:   Lines: 51 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.145.93 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217165734 1308 127.0.0.1 (27 Jul 2008 13:35:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.145.93; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3864 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:659180

On Jul 27, 8:18=A0am, Nuxx Bar  wrote: > I thought Mike Vandeman was supposed to be me. =A0Thereagain it was > Crapman who made that claim, so it's no surprise that it's turned out > to be complete horseshit.

Here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/crapman

He thinks I'm Guy Cuthbertson* now. Or does he? It changes with the wind, and as with other topics, he never says "I was wrong" when he realises he's made a mistake (I think the word is "arrogant"). He seems to attach a lot of importance to people like me posting under their "real names", but as with his other complaints, there is a double standard in that his fellow motorist-haters never come in for the same criticism.

Spindrift goes to incredible lengths to conceal his identification, but Crapman never mentions that. It poses the question: Is Crapman really blind to everything that is wrong with Spindrift, simply because Spindrift also hates motorists, or does he realise what an odious prat he really is? Then there's the likes of "_" (who should be called "****"), not to mention the people with "real" names which are actually just made up.

Talking of nicknames, why is it that there are so many tosspots in this newsgroup, but Tosspot isn't one of them? (Having said "so many", it's probably not that high percentage-wise, it's just that Crapman and co tend to drown out the more moderate, less militant voices.)

Oh and Crapman, do you have any links with "safety" camera partnerships, camera manufacturers, the police, or local or central government? Have you ever appeared as an "expert" witness in court in connection with any motoring-related charge? Have you ever provided consultancy to any camera business? Have you ever made money from or through any road "safety"-related organisation?

And where on *Earth* are you getting this absolute codswallop about me not coming up with my own stuff? Either explain what you mean or stop saying it, if you don't want it to become another example of you lying. Everything that I post, except what I clearly attribute to others, is my own work. It's not my problem if you think my arguments are so well put together that they must be from some expert.

-- close to his name, although I did think he was called "Guy Cuthbert" then for some reason. I thought he read uk.rec.driving then, but now I realise that he doesn't like reading true stuff about cameras et al...look how stressed he gets just from what I post!
 * Quite amusing since I originally chose that alias because it was