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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <6074774d-6b65-42a5-aafa-5fbb4d4cc732@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling, uk.rec.driving Subject: Friends of the Earth Quote Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:08:27 -0800 (PST) Lines: 39 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.165.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1202580507 16166 127.0.0.1 (9 Feb 2008 18:08:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.165.120; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3186 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:639237

"Speed limits should be made very low and rigidly enforced to take all the glamour out of motoring" Friends of the Earth, 1995

Is anyone going to have the guts to admit that they agree with the above quote? Spindrift? His sycophants? Other militant cyclists?

The quote does of course prove that the continued lowering of speed limits and the proliferation of speed cameras are indeed implemented for anti-motorist reasons, at least some of the time. Anyone who denies that that is ever the case is pretty likely to be anti-motorist themselves. How Enemies of the People must regret letting that one slip, as it makes a mockery of claims (lies) that such measures are all about safety and nothing else.

Surely saving lives, rather than ideological anti-car nonsense, should anything less and people will die unnecessarily. Surely no-one can reasonably argue with that. Therefore "taking all the glamour out of motoring" should never *ever* be so much as a slight consideration when deciding what to implement. We owe it to all road users, even obnoxious cyclists.
 * always* be the top priority when deciding on road safety measures;

Those who interfere with road safety in order to make things unpleasant for drivers have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. Those who support them have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. Those who knowingly propagate the associated lies have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. When are these bastards going to stop pretending that they are doing anything but effectively signing people's death warrants?

It's time for real road safety, where reducing casualties as much as possible is the one and only aim. There's no room for anything else.

(Doubtless Spindrift will deny that he agrees with the quote, but then argue with everything else that I've written, thereby showing that he does in fact completely agree with it. He may also have a go at claiming that Friends of the Earth "didn't really say that" or some such, giving a list of irrelevant hyperlinks in his defence.  Par for the course then really.)