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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:25:40 -0700 (PDT), Myra in Cambridge  wrote:

>What a load of shit. You don't even need to look at the headers to >know that this is a forgery.

No, it is actually me, Guy Cuthbertson. And how can me saying "I won't post if..." be a "load of shit"? I wasn't making any statements, just saying that I won't take any further interest in this group if it stops being used as a base for the motorist-haters' campaigning (in fact I would never have come here in the first place if it hadn't had a justifiable reputation as *the* newsgroup for motorist-haters).

Take it or leave it. If and when posters here demonstrate that the group is only being used as a neutral discussion group for UK recreational cyclists, and is not being misused by lying motorist-hating scum, I and the other "trolls" (non-motorist-haters and other "dissenters") will stop coming here. Whether or not the conditions in the OP are ignored will determine just how much the regulars *really* want to get rid of the "trolls".

I don't really see what's wrong with asking that people only advocate measures such as speed cameras if they *really* believe that they're making the roads safer (and they're not just advocating them for anti-motorist reasons), but the fact that you seem to think that wanting such a thing is in some way unreasonable says a lot about what is currently wrong with this group. Because those who are *really* killing the group are the lying motorist-haters who have taken over this resource and started misusing it for selfish, misanthropic reasons; the "trolls" who object to the motorist-haters only came as a result of that. Get rid of, or gag, the motorist-hating scum (most of whom probably don't cycle much anyway), and everything else will fall into place; I guarantee it.

All the best

Guy C