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What is the point in continually trying to make motorists' lives a misery with speed cameras, lowered speed limits, lane theft, draconian parking enforcement and all the other anti-car measures when the majority of drivers don't (despite the assertions of the likes of mileburner) have any realistic alternative to the car?

Say the freedom from state control and surveillance that driving provides is indeed a terrible thing like the car-haters think, and therefore we have to force all motorists out of their cars and onto nice socialist public transport. Surely that's best achieved by making public transport better so that people actually want to use it and it actually takes them where they want to go, when they want to?

Yet the car-haters concentrate almost exclusively on pissing off motorists, and they don't discriminate between those who have no choice but to drive and those who do. This leads me to believe that the whole thing is much more about spite and punishment of those who dare to desire freedom from control than it is about any genuine, altruistic wish to improve things in any way. (Car-haters? Spiteful?  Who would have thought it?)