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On Aug 22, 8:33=A0am, Simon Mason  wrote: > On Aug 21, 6:27=A0pm, Mark Williams  wrote: > > > Jim Newman  writes: > > >>>>>http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hoddesdon-and-Broxbourne/Par= ent... > > > > I've 'got access to a car,', but I don't use it unless I don't have > > > something better available! And that's the case for most people. > > > Yes. =A0Here in Hoddesdon I have `access to a car', but it stays in the > > garage for >350 days/ year. =A0It's usually easier and quicker, as well= as > > more pleasant, to get about by bike for most journeys. > > Same here, except my wife commutes in it so I don't get as much > benefit as you. > Still, I only have the one car, instead of two so I still save > shedloads as compared to the average two car family. > > > > > It was surprising that the figure for schools is as high as 70% (up ~10= % > > in 10 years), but for whatever reason there is definitely a lot more > > walking and cycling in Hertfordshire these days. =A0Even kids playing i= n > > the streets (with/ without their bikes). =A0Almost civilised, sometimes= . > > Agreed. > 15 years ago, Hull was in thrall to rat runners and commuters who used > to plague residential streets. > Since then, these roads have been carpeted with severe humps which has > vastly reduced the problem and given the streets back to the > residents. It is now normal to see kids playing ball in the streets > and cycling and walking to school as you have also noticed in the more > affluent Home Counties. It is *much* more civilised now and the high > fuel taxes have helped as well.

You see, this is the kind of malevolent nonsense that I'm going to be very glad not to have to read anymore. I don't know why I've put myself through it for so long. It's not as though people like you are remotely amenable to reason or correction of your misinformed views.