Nuxx:7072491a-f035-44be-8321-a00074647093@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ramfeed2.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!postnews.google.com!z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <7072491a-f035-44be-8321-a00074647093@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Child Death In Redditch Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:40:38 -0700 (PDT) References:  Lines: 43 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.129.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217958039 15678 127.0.0.1 (5 Aug 2008 17:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.129.172; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3429 X-Original-Bytes: 3386 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:660933

On Aug 5, 9:54 am, Roger Thorpe  wrote: > Wow Nuxx you really have turned into the Anti-Doug. > Have a little think about how effective or not he is at spreading a > message of reasonable environmental sensitivity and CO2 reduction...... > > Now think about whether you are just here to have an argument or whether > you really care about the issues......

Hi Roger

Both if I'm honest with you. I do care about the issues, and my posts on sensible forums reflect that. I'm absolutely confident that I'm a valued contributor on such forums. But this place is so full of unreasonable, abusive, agenda-driven, hateful, criminal (in Spindrift's case) anti-car extremists that I don't see any point in trying to be "nice" here. Others may not agree that that's the best approach but it makes me feel better to know that I'm annoying the motorist-haters, as well as "polluting" their newsgroup with true facts that the motorist-haters desperately want to be censored (just look at their disgusting treatment of Paul Smith, simply because he propagated such true facts in the national media).

I do appreciate that not everyone here is a motorist-hater by a long way, but as I've said before, such people's refusal to disown the motorist-haters and tell them to form uk.rec.anti-motorist means that they can't really complain too much when people who have learnt at length elsewhere what despicable, hateful morons the likes of Chapman and Spindrift are come on here to correct and remonstrate with them. There is nowhere else that those extremists hang out which isn't censored (to one degree or another) by similarly anti-car people.

So if you and your ilk don't like this newsgroup being a battleground between the vocal and widely detested anti-Safe Speed, anti-safety, anti-motorist extremists and their opponents, get the extremists to form their own non-cycling, anti-motorist newsgroup. Tell them to stop dishonestly using "pro-cycling" as a cover for their real agenda. That will benefit us all, except for those extremists who are too dishonest and cowardly to admit that they're anti-motorist.

Cheers and thanks

Guy Cuthbertson