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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!69.16.177.242.MISMATCH!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe21.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Dangerous driving complaint and response. Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:16:44 +0000 References: <3a30696f-4bca-46fb-87d4-a4c5dac7867a@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com> 	   Lines: 46 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe21.ams2 1233429413 82.21.204.127 (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:16:53 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:16:53 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 3737 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:684447

Nick L Plate wrote: > On Jan 31, 5:07 pm, "Adam Lea"  wrote: >> "mr jones"  wrote in message >> >> news:l0n8o4t24qu4fgelqvvokb9m3cv6ec0jj4@4ax.com... > >>> He wanted to "discourage overtaking" - why? >>> does he expect a queue of traffic to accumulate behind him. >> In this case it was because of a narrowing in the road ahead. If the cyclist >> rides in the gutter with a stream of traffic overtaking then the cyclist >> will get diverted into the traffic stream by the pinch point. It is much >> safer for the cyclist to enter the main traffic stream prior to the pinch >> point (by negotiating with the traffic) so there is no convergence of >> vehicle paths. Once past the constriction the cyclist can move back to the >> left to let following traffic past if safe to do so (or if there is a large >> queue forming then find a safe place to stop and let it past).- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > The cyclist was reinforcing the purpose of the hazard line by his > position and hand signal, indicating a hazard. A specific hazard was > the oncoming high silver car(4x4) making the passage of a following > car between cyclist and said oncoming unsafe. A professional driver > should have been nowhere near the cyclist in this situation, even > baring the cyclists signal. Significant as well is that it was a > right hand bend and a following driver in a vehicle with right hand > drive could not see that it was safe to go because of oncoming > vehicles masking his view of the road. "what if a child had run out?" > was a common question a police officer would ask at the scene. > > I think this cyclist does make mistakes, and he airs them. A taxi > driver is a professional driver and so should maintain the highest > standards of driving. A cyclist is permitted to ride without > knowledge or training. Although this cyclist seems to show little > courtesy towards car drivers, and can be deemed 'at fault', a taxi > driver should show due diligence and restraint,

He showed *admirable* restraint. He didn't get out and twat the foulmouthed yob on a bike spitting venom at him.

> of which the driver > videoed did not. I believe this should be re-submitted to the council > and chief constable (or Scottish equivalent). > I think thats an admirable idea. It might persuade plod to consider charging the cyclist with a public order offence.