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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!feeder.news-service.com!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!cyclone03.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!npeersf02.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe15.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Message-ID: <7PJfl.508$oF2.135@newsfe15.ams2> From: _  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Spindrift: "Vile Car-Hating Fanatic" (Not Said By Me) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:05:15 +0000 References: <30f5b32b-8ca4-4f1e-b146-08d44e210a28@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> <58Ifl.107$zv7.34@newsfe01.ams2> Lines: 77 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58Ifl.107$zv7.34@newsfe01.ams2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.21.204.127 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe15.ams2 1233086787 82.21.204.127 (Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:06:27 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:06:27 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 5663 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:828136

Brian RobertsOn wrote: > "Nuxx Bar"  wrote in message > news:30f5b32b-8ca4-4f1e-b146-08d44e210a28@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >> Spindrift has recently been polluting the SafeSpeed forums with his >> usual agenda-driven, dishonest, hate-filled rubbish (and refusals to >> answer any questions), before once again being banned (as he has from >> oh-so-many other forums, and not just SafeSpeed/PH but all sorts of >> cycling ones), not for his point of view, but for being a disgusting, >> trolling cunt as per, who simply makes the same copied and pasted >> allegations again and again no matter how often they are refuted. >> >> An interesting discussion has resulted, away from the eyes of trolls, >> where an incredible number of people seem to have the same >> "misconception" that Spindrift, and a number of other fanatical >> cycling trolls, hate cars. How strange! It was pointed out that a >> certain poster was really interested in cycling, and had been >> perfectly welcome on a particular cycling forum - until they said that >> they liked cars as well. Immediately, it was made very clear to them >> that they were no longer welcome. As someone says, in some web- >> cyclists'* eyes, you are allowed to drive as long as you don't enjoy >> it too much. It seems that being pro-cyclist is optional and >> unimportant, whereas being at least somewhat anti-motorist is most >> definitely mandatory. >> >> When are you absolute fuckwits (you know who you are) going to give it >> up and admit to hating cars? Why are you so ashamed of doing so? Is >> it because you know that such hatred can't be defended (in which case, >> why practise it?) Or is it because you've decided that you'll have a >> better chance of inflicting misery on drivers if you play dirty and >> pretend that you care about "safety" or "the environment" instead (in >> which case you're a lying piece of shit who is weakening genuine >> safety and environment-related efforts)? Either way, you're scum >> really, aren't you? >> >> Oh, BTW, several of the contributors to the SafeSpeed thread in >> question are quite happy to admit, on that very thread, to being >> fanatical cyclists themselves, and no-one has a problem with that. >> Why is it that cyclists who enjoy cycling are tolerated on motoring- >> related forums, but not the other way round? Why are web-cyclists the >> only ones who discriminate against posters based on which modes of >> transport they enjoy? >> >> Oh, and if you ever decide to argue with Spindrift (pointless though >> it is to try to reason with a deranged lunatic) on any forum, for >> goodness' sake don't let him get hold of your workplace or home >> address. At best, you'll receive a high volume of deeply disturbing, >> abusive letters (and the more you stick up for motorists, the sicker >> the content will be). At worst, you'll have to move due to receiving >> multiple bomb threats. You have been warned. >> >> (And if, by any chance, you're a reasonable person who supports speed >> cameras, why do you suppose it is that all of the worst, most >> demented, most dishonest, most infamous transport policy-related >> Internet freaks, like Spindrift, Chapman, and Jaded, all seem to >> support, rather than oppose, cameras? Having read their posts, do you >> really think that they support cameras because they want to save >> lives?  Do they seem like altruistic people to you?  Or do they seem >> like lying, selfish, obsessive, extremist nutters who have an axe to >> grind against motorists and capitalism and see speed cameras as a way >> of getting what they want?  Which do you *honestly* think is closer to >> the truth?  I rest my case.) >> >> -- >> * This has become the term for "Spindrift/Crapman-like car-hating >> wanker who frequents cycling forums, may or may not actually cycle, >> and (despite denying it) hates drivers so much that they are prepared >> to kill people in order to make things worse for them, while launching >> despicable and vitriolic hate campaigns against anyone who exposes >> their anti-motorist weapons for what they are". > > Still a trolling imbercile then, Nuxx? > > I hate cars and have no problem admitting it. Anything that puts more points > on the licences of car drivers is just about fine with me. > Still smarting about that drinking problem and work all this time later, Glug?