Nuxx:95021b26-29a4-40fa-9da3-1db8ad442dbc@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com

Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <95021b26-29a4-40fa-9da3-1db8ad442dbc@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: I am not Judith, thaksin, _, or Anyone Except Nuxx Bar Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 40 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.154.123.12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1241410268 23853 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2009 04:11:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 04:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.154.123.12; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3067 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:699241

Face it, trolls: just because you'd prefer to believe that only one person in the entire world would ever have the audacity to disagree with your stated POVs, doesn't make it so. Whether or not you'd like it to be the case, large numbers of people believe:

- that speed cameras kill people (and that some of their more callous, hateful supporters, like Chapman, know that but carry on their support anyway).

- that there is a war on the motorist. (In fact most people probably believe this, even if some see fit to deny it for their own purposes...see below.)

- that there are car-hating dickheads who have taken to lying about being anti-car and instead pretending to be "pro-cycling", purely because they know that they'd be despised if they admitted to being anti-car (you'd think that might tell them something); again, Chapman is the example which immediately springs to mind (although he's so despised anyway that it wouldn't make any difference if he just admitted to hating motorists, except himself of course).

- that cycling is dangerous.

- that cycle helmets are a good thing, and that wearing them should be compulsory.

- that in many cases cyclists only have themselves (and/or other cyclists) to blame for their bad reputation, if only because (in some cases at least) they haven't distanced themselves sufficiently from the closet car-haters pretending to be pro-cyclist.

- that too many cycling advocates (and car-hating pretend cycling advocates) have the attitude that cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore cyclists should be able to do what they like, while drivers should be heavily punished and restricted in whatever way they can be.

Pretending that only "trolls" would ever hold such POVs just plays right into the hands of your opponents. But I'm sure you'll all carry on doing it anyway. Psycholists were always rather slow learners.