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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.stack.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e28a923$0$2533$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Unlawful Detention Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:33:05 +0100 References: <4e286934$0$2488$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> <98r85jFudjU1@mid.individual.net> <0otg2716k1r5c3ovepuasjeoiag8bqh4re@4ax.com> <98rhjsF9q8U1@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 48 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 8a5b07b2.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=^f=kQCH@]57C9mHfSDa?A5nok4Z\ On 21 Jul 2011 20:47:57 GMT, "Paul - xxx"  wrote: > >> Judith wrote: >> >>> On 21 Jul 2011 18:06:43 GMT, "Paul - xxx" >>>  wrote: >>> >>>> Nuxx Bar wrote: >>>> >>>>> Today, when cycling, I came to a vehicle-activated set of lights >>> which >> was on red. It didn't detect me on my bike and so stayed >>> red, for a >> good 3 minutes, until a car came up behind me and >>> activated the lights >> and they mercifully went green at last. >>>>> >>>>> According to one of the more knowledgeable and respected posters in >>>>> this group, I was unlawfully detained by the council for that 3 >>>>> minutes. >>>> >>>> I can't remember anyone saying that at all, perhaps you have a link >>>> to prove it ... >>> >>> >>> If Traffic Lights are not working, then you can telephone the police >>> for permission to procede. >>> If this is not forthcoming, then you can reports it as "unlawful >>> detention". (Anchor Lee) >> >> So you say ... I've never heard of it, or heard anyone 'here' suggest >> it in the manner Nuxx suggested. > > > Phil Wanker Lee has previously said: "If Traffic Lights are not working, then > you can telephone the police for permission to procede. If this is not > forthcoming, then you can reports it as "unlawful detention". > > It is of course - like most legal matters he pronounces on - absolute bollocks.

Yes, I thought as much. It did tickle me though, hence this topic. I forgot about putting in the "phoning the police for permission" bit unfortunately.

> I believe that Nuxx Bar may have been taking the piss - but I could be wrong.

You're entirely correct of course. Do you perchance have a Google Groups link to the thread containing the "offending" Phil Knee post? I know he X-No-Archives everything, but perhaps there's a reply or two quoting it (since it's too barking to have been ignored!)