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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:24:38 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:05:13 +0100, >notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) said in ><1iote6q.8kwd981l9rk67N%notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com>: > >>Would an actual traffic copper have been more likely to spot the 3 >>faulty tyres? Would the copper have been more likely to see someone who >>may have been driving too fast for the conditions? > >Dunno, but an actual traffic copper is more likely to have had time >to do these things if he's not tied up with processing speeding >fines - which of course he now isn't, since that's handled by >civvies. Good outcome, then - real plod get to do things that >require judgment and machines do the things that can be automated. >Much like most fields of endeavour these days, in fact.

So, since you're so in favour of automatically and indiscriminately enforcing laws which were never intended to be automatically and indiscriminately enforced, I assume you wouldn't have a problem with cannabis smoke sensors in everyone's home which took a photo of those smoking the cannabis and sent it to the police?

Except that you would, because you know that whether it "enforces the law" or not, such a system would be counterproductive, not in the public interest, and totally contrary to common sense. You know it would unnecessarily criminalise millions of responsible, decent folk who weren't doing any harm to anyone. You know that discretionless speed limit enforcement is in the same boat. But the difference is that you don't have it in for cannabis users, whereas you do for motorists, so your attitude towards indiscriminate speed enforcement is "Normally I don't like discretionless law enforcement, but anything which makes life hell for those motorists has got to be a good thing - EVEN IF IT COSTS LIVES" (and that last bit is what really makes me hate you, as opposed to just finding you objectionable).

You're so psychopathically determined to shit all over motorists that you're prepared to discard pretty much all of the principles that you normally have: your belief in sensible, proportional and beneficial law enforcement; your belief in not interfering unnecessarily with others; your belief in not KILLING PEOPLE; your belief in not being a lying, evasive fuckwit (oh hang on, you're like that all the time, as evidenced by Wikipedia among countless other places); your belief in not discriminating against large groups of people (oh hang on, you do that all the time as well, as evidenced by your homophobic actions to name but one time when you've hit out at a huge group of people just for the sheer hell of it).

You're the sick fuck. You're the one who campaigns to kill road users. You're the one whose father was (allegedly, according to Encyclopedia Dramatica) a paedophile, who (allegedly) abused you, resulting in (allegedly) you doing the same thing in turn to others. You're a twisted, lying, motorist-hating bastard.