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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e341146$0$2502$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Bexley driver "'severely embarrassed' after attack. Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:12:21 +0100 References:  <998b11F9raU1@mid.individual.net>  <4e334b24$0$2491$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>  <99i0nrFiecU1@mid.individual.net> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99i0nrFiecU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 6bf225af.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=f1eQGhhJc>FcQDiXV^P_=C0g@SS;SF6nGRiiCXJE[K>GEU5a\bFaf>G`:ITG5aA:cG@ClPGi@a[3I X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2271 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:819552

On 30/07/2011 10:21, JNugent wrote: > On 30/07/2011 09:27, Simon Mason wrote: >> >> "Nuxx Bar"  wrote in message >> news:4e334b24$0$2491$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk... >> >>> >>> If it's done as a genuine, necessary effort to prevent someone from >>> knocking you off or squashing you then that's one thing. Of course your >>> self-preservation is more important than any vehicle. But if it's done >>> as a rebuke or "revenge" then it's taking the law into one's own hands >>> and it's not on. >> >> How do you feel about a car passing a cyclist too close and the >> driver's door >> mirror being damaged after being struck against the cyclist? >> Would the cyclist be to blame for the damage in that case, if he had no >> knowledge of the car beforehand? > > That would be a real, actual, example of "too close" rather than the > imaginary "too close" (where the cyclist's sense of entitlement is > somehow breached by being overtaken) you and others were citing earlier.

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