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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!feeder.news-service.com!feeder.news-service.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Ding Dong  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Look both ways and don't cross until the green man Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:49:33 +0100 References:  <9a1sdeFt2dU7@mid.individual.net> <8YmdnUE648KVIKbTnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk>  Lines: 43 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Reply-To: ding@dong.invalid Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8psORfuBq3je/hVXnlNHEQ"; logging-data="4362"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/3jXatqk5znCn5kk0nOyppUuXaPvlD+j8=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 In-Reply-To:  Cancel-Lock: sha1:WKyKXvHPBC6SMobI86tIiWfgMwg= Bytes: 2953 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:820537

On 05/08/2011 11:23, Mentalguy2k8 wrote: > > "Simon Mason"  wrote in message > news:8YmdnUE648KVIKbTnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... >> >> "Paul - xxx"  wrote in message >> news:9a1sdeFt2dU7@mid.individual.net... >>> Simon Mason wrote: >>> >>>> The clue is in the red man and the great big sign saying "look both >>>> ways". >>>> >>>> http://www.swldxer.co.uk/crossing.wmv >>> >>> I like the little giggle (sounds like) near the end, perhaps she >>> thought it funny to step out into traffic? >>> >>> -- >>> Paul - xxx >> >> I actually shouted "look out" loudly at her twice before I approached >> the crossing as I saw she was not looking, but the video sound makes >> it appear as if I shouted afterwards. > > Well that's convenient. No doubt if a motorist had run up and threatened > you, the audio and video would have been perfectly synced. > > But at least by your own admission, your footage wouldn't be admissible > as evidence. It's obviously unreliable.

Yes, good one...I'll be sure to bookmark your post so that it can be recalled when Mr Mason posts his inevitable first (and second, and third...) video of a confrontation with a motorist.

At any rate, if what he says is true and he saw that the pedestrian was already not looking then he should have just stopped instead of shouting and carrying on. I'm sure he would have berated any motorist who had just beeped and carried on in that situation.

As usual, cyclists can do no wrong, motorists can do no right, and safety is not actually a priority at all, it's just invoked when it's convenient to the pro-cyclist/anti-motorist "cause" (and disregarded otherwise).