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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Prostitution and drugs are vices - period! Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:38:04 -0700 (PDT) References:  <01b17fb0-ae28-44dc-95af-d72ead63392f@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>  <2d75bde6-354a-459a-bb86-139913baa025@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>  Lines: 58 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.153.43.65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248374284 14269 127.0.0.1 (23 Jul 2009 18:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.153.43.65; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4203 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:719652

On Jul 23, 7:11=A0pm, "Edward Dolan"  wrote: > "ComandanteBanana"  wrote in message > > news:2d75bde6-354a-459a-bb86-139913baa025@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 22, 8:37 pm, "Edward Dolan"  wrote: > [...]> Saint Edward the Great can find no defense for prostitution or dru= gs - > > none! > > Maybe CB does not mind if prostitutes and drug dealers hang out near hi= s > > residence, but I think most of us do. > > [...] > > >> If only we had less prostitution and drugs than Holland... > > Holland is a very small and insignificant nation which cannot stand > comparison with the US in any respect whatsoever. > > >> 'U.S. leads world in substance abuse, WHO finds' > >> "Countries with looser drug laws have lower rates of abuse" > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080701/hl_nm/drugs_who_dc > > It is comparing apples with oranges. The US has the most diverse populati= on > of any nation in the world. > > >> One more proposal: The $15 billion the US wastes on the "war on > > drugs," could be smartly used to build BIKE FACILITIES. > > Any relaxation of the war on prostitution and the war on drugs will only > lead to further destruction of the social fabric, already fraying at the > edges. Prostitution and drugs are severe vices which are capable of > destroying civil society. We should all read up on what happened in China= a > couple of centuries ago to get some perspective on what vices generalized= to > the larger society can do. It is not a pretty picture.

Prohibitionists invariably put forward some pretty feeble arguments, and the above is no exception. There's enough of a case for legalisation that we should at least *try* it...things can't get much worse than they are already. But strangely enough, the prohibitionists seem dead against that idea. I can't help but get the impression that they're scared it might work, and wouldn't they just hate having to put up with all those people getting off their faces and having fun? Because ultimately, the majority of prohibitionists hate other people having fun.

Anyone who genuinely believed that legalisation was a bad idea would he happy to try it, so they could prove to everyone that it was indeed a bad idea.

The case for drug prohibition is as feeble as the case for speed cameras, and again and again we get the same old discredited theories and dirty tricks from advocates of both (e.g. they're both very fond of the "Think of the children" line).