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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <1d1c5720-a20a-4b11-af6a-e38448e93ea0@z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Boris keeps the important traffic flowing Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:05:21 -0700 (PDT) References:  Lines: 32 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.145.66.20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242324321 28815 127.0.0.1 (14 May 2009 18:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.145.66.20; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2911 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:829243

On May 13, 9:59=A0pm, Squashme  wrote: > > Third class citizens. Endanger and delay the peds so that the over- > privileged and important motorists (and the cyclists who do bother to > stop) don't get too frustrated.

Be honest: what is it that you're most bothered about? Pedestrians being supposedly "endangered" or "delayed" (despite there being no proper evidence of that), or motorists having it too easy and not being bullied and impeded enough?

Someone who really cared about pedestrians, and didn't hate cars, would try to think of measures which helped both pedestrians *and* motorists, instead of simply moaning about anything which made things easier for car drivers, and deliberately attempting to propagate the false idea that you can't possibly help car drivers without making things harder for pedestrians/cyclists, and vice versa.

Those who are anti-car rather than pro-cyclist are really showing their true colours with their dislike of Boris compared to Livingstone. The cyclist Boris has done more for cyclists than Livingstone ever did, but because he doesn't hate cars like Livingstone did, he was written off by Spindrift and the other motorist-haters before he even got into City Hall. It's possibly the most blatant example yet of the fake cycling advocates exposing their true anti-car motives (and the fact that they really couldn't give a
 * stuff* about cyclists) for all to see.

It's time the car-haters started telling the truth about what they really want, instead of parasitising the cause of cycling. If their agenda is so wonderful and worthwhile, why are they so ashamed about being upfront about it?