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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!shaftesbury.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4e35d957$0$2527$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another pavement death again! Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:38:15 +0100 References:  <4e346725$0$2527$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>  Lines: 59 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: fa0d637d.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=45Ugg53\o7?f<^?D`?[F`:nok4Z\ On 30-Jul-2011, Nuxx Bar wrote: >> >> If someone desperately needs to be able to go 10 miles to hospital at >> 3am to see a dying relative, and there is no public transport and no >> taxis in the area at that time, then they can damn well wait until 8am >> when the first bus runs, and if the relative has died already by then >> then that's just tough. Freedom is bad, and removing it must be top >> priority. >> > Maybe they should have been at the hospital anyway and what if the car won't > start? Sometimes things are not always as perfect as you might like.

LOL! That's brilliant, even for you. I've never seen such clutching at straws. But at least, unlike Chapman and others would have done, you didn't just dishonestly dodge the point altogether because you knew you had no proper answer for it.

>>> "Woman charged over Caversham bus stop death >>> >>> A woman has been charged over the death of a 44-year-old who was killed >>> when >>> a car hit a bus stop in Berkshire. >> >> Chapman lives in Caversham and is in his 40s. Every time I see a report >> like that I think "Please, please...."  If he carries on cycling as >> recklessly and belligerently as he currently does then hopefully I'll >> get my wish eventually. >> > You want to see someone dead or injured?

I wouldn't mind with him in particular, in the same way that most people were relieved when Bin Laden was killed. There are a very few people (only a handful over the whole world) who that applies to because of everything they've done, and because they are, quite frankly, evil (as well as deceitful, sociopathic and all the rest). The world would be unequivocally better off without them. That doesn't mean if course that deliberately killing them is remotely acceptable, but if they do die then oh well, let's look at the bright side.

Don't worry, you (and others here) are nowhere near that status, with me or (I'm sure) anyone else. At least you are somewhat sincere and honest about what you want to happen, even if you are utterly barking, and you're not so forthcoming about your real (anti-capitalist/anti-freedom/pro-control) reasons for wanting to get rid of cars.

> This seems to be a typical > motorists mentality, so close are they all the time to death.

Ah yes, another Doug classic. What with being so close to death all the time, it's amazing how many motorists manage to get from A to B every day completely unscathed. I guess it's just incredible, improbable luck, millions of times a day, all over the country.

Of course, being "close to death" doesn't stop when someone gets home, given that more deaths occur in the home than in the car, but don't let that little inconvenient fact stop you any more than any of the other myriad inconvenient facts do.