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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4998a97e-25c9-42e3-83ee-d517a049c575@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Time To Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 41 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.105.204.241 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1207546672 23364 127.0.0.1 (7 Apr 2008 05:37:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=88.105.204.241; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080311 Firefox/2.0.0.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3208 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:646338

If you're one of the camera-supporting trolls here, and you drive regularly, then the following statements are all true, are they not?

1. You believe that every instance of someone being caught speeding (when they actually were) is "perfectly fair". 2. You believe that every instance of someone being banned through the totting up of speeding points is "perfectly fair". 3. You speed at least 4 times every 3 years.

Bringing those statements together, you therefore believe that it's "perfectly fair" that YOU should be PERMANENTLY BANNED. So by rights, if you're going to continue to support cameras, you must send the DVLA your licences and tell them that you wish to stop driving. Any other course of action is outrageously hypocritical; it shows that you think it should be one rule for you and another for everyone else, and that you consider yourselves to be so much more important than most drivers that the anti-motorist effort shouldn't apply to you.

If you know that all the above is true, and you don't wish to admit it because it makes you look so ridiculous, feel free to attempt to disguise it by throwing your toys out of the pram and spouting ad hominem. It won't change the reality: that your position is utterly absurd, and that if you're going to continue this pathetic motorist- hating under the guise of road safety, you should follow through logically and stop driving yourselves.

So which is it to be, trolls: are you going to stop pretending that you think cameras save lives in order to get motorists off the road, or are you going to stop driving? If neither, please explain why you think that your need to drive is so much more pressing than everyone else's that you should be exempt from the motorist-purging which you are so keen to support.

(And as for those motorist-haters who have been pretending that they drive when they actually don't: perhaps you should take this opportunity to come clean, as your lying has just made you look more stupid rather than less.)

Thanks very much and all the best

Bobby Lightcycles