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On May 27, 11:08=A0pm, Theo Markettos  wrote: > n...@cam.ac.uk wrote: > > I prefer "not antagonistic" to "sympathetic". =A0Encouraging censorship > > is a bad idea, especially if it encourages the sort of dogmatic > > flammifer that caused me to leave a fair number of years ago. > > Yes, that sounds sensible. =A0If you want to discourage the 'all cyclists= go > through red lights and squish old ladies' brigade, to be even-handed you > should also discourage the 'all motorists speed and kill children' group > too. =A0Neither of which are particularly enlightening discussions.

Unfortunately, there are a large number of posters (some of whom have put themselves forward for moderation) who would ban members of the former brigade, but have no problem with members of the latter (and may even be members themselves). It is vital that *no* such posters become moderators of the new group; just one would be enough to guarantee problems as a direct result.

Anyway, it's the "all motorists speed and kill children" group (in particular those who think that, make it obvious that they think it, but deny thinking it, like Chapman and Spindrift) who have caused all the problems on URC in the first place.

(Of course, all motorists *do* speed, but I don't think that's how you meant it...I think you really meant "All motorists go recklessly fast and kill children".)