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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Traffic lights to have blind spot mirrors fitted Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:43:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <79rjm6F1shrufU1@mid.individual.net>   <878wjrovqt.fsf@toy.config> <1j1gnro.15mn7kqmslk9bN%NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk>  <1j1h3vt.za37b13zvst3N%NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk>  <20090619135115.389d9156@bluemoon>  Lines: 25 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.156.150.242 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1245440640 22519 127.0.0.1 (19 Jun 2009 19:44:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.156.150.242; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2811 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:710772

On Jun 19, 8:21=A0pm, Phil W Lee  wrote: > Rob Morley  considered Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:51:15 > > > >I find that I can normally see around this sort of obstruction by > >moving in the seat, sticking my head out of the window etc. =A0Is that > >too much to ask of drivers? > > Of course it's possible to peer around it, and of course I expect good > drivers to do so. > That doesn't mean it isn't stupid to make a front pillar as fat and > obstructive as they all seem to be now.

Careful; you're advocating real road safety measures, rather than anti- car measures dressed up as such. That'll get you branded a "troll" here in double quick time. And I can only assume that you're on something since that's the first time I've ever seen you talk the slightest sense.

Rob Morley shows his ignorance by claiming that it doesn't matter if drivers have to make more effort than necessary to be able to see hazards. Yet another ardent "the law is the law, breaking the law is always dangerous and unacceptable, and don't you *dare* claim otherwise"-er shows that they don't even have the most basic grasp of road safety.