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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4fe69435-82c7-4385-97cc-7f1a1dd5d587@l11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Yet another cyclists pissing contest in the wrong newsgroup [was: Confused about URCM in UNNM] Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <8vdcbiF4unU1@mid.individual.net> <8vdgpdF46eU3@mid.individual.net> <8vdicfFfsbU1@mid.individual.net>  Lines: 37 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.71.49.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1301588221 25122 127.0.0.1 (31 Mar 2011 16:17:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=82.71.49.124; posting-account=WrLs9woAAAD151hWKA9yknAtxFHW4kE4 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Firefox/3.6.15,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2994 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:844747

On Mar 31, 3:24=A0pm, Pedt <"\"@ @\""@some.oddities-etc.co.uk> wrote: > In message <8vdicfFfs...@mid.individual.net>, at 09:09:05 on Tue, 29 Mar > 2011, Matt B  wibbled > > > > >On 29/03/2011 08:41, Tony Raven wrote: > >> Matt B =A0wrote: > > >>> Except that, in England and Wales at least, we know from the studies = of > >>> hospital admission statistics, that only about one-third of serious > >>> on-road cyclist casualties involve any other vehicle at all, let > >>>alone a motor vehicle. > > >> We also know that significant problems have been found with the hospit= als > >> confusing cyclists and motor cyclists in those statistics. =A0So in es= sence > >> you can't draw any sound conclusions from them. > > >Not quite. =A0What we /do/ know is that _one_ London hospital, confused > >pedal cycles and motorcycles in their 2001 data. =A0AFAIR, this was > >picked up when inconsistencies with data from neighbouring hospitals > >was noticed. > > Do you have the statistics are for injuries caused to those bashing > their head against the keyboard at seeing yet another fucking cycling > discussion^W pissing contest in unn{moderation}.

While I can understand your irritation, surely you agree that it's a "problem" that will go away once URCM "moderation" is sorted out and people aren't constantly questioning URCM "moderation" decisions in here (which is what always causes the transport-related discussion). It seems easier, and more effective, to address the root cause (URCM's substandard "moderation") than it does to bitch about the debate that results.