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Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <53751654-8ea3-4a79-aef0-026cb65830eb@q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling, uk.transport.london, uk.rec.driving Subject: Re: Bus Lanes: Proof Of What We All Knew Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:16:01 -0800 (PST) References: <3282357c-d7aa-4691-a331-97561dba1306@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com> <60kfogF1qvfq6U1@mid.individual.net>  <47a5dec0$0$8424$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>   Lines: 39 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.17.39 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1202105765 7218 127.0.0.1 (4 Feb 2008 06:16:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.17.39; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3219 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:638452

On Feb 3, 10:14 pm, "burtthebike"  wrote: > "Sir Jeremy"  wrote in message > > news:e8b14d24-7c89-4e74-b25f-5fff93078481@m34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On 3 Feb, 15:33, Nick  wrote: > > > Nuxx Bar wrote: > > > On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs" > > >  wrote: > > > I think militant cyclist make drivers more aware of cyclists which makes > > us all safer.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > You don't get it. > > Militant cyclist piss people off and turn all cyclists into objects of > hate > > Which says much more about you than the cyclists you hate.

But it's not just him, it's lots of people. It's human nature to an extent. Rather than telling people that they shouldn't react in such a way to militant cyclists, wouldn't it be easier just to get rid of the militant cyclists (who are after all in the minority)? They don't help anyone, even other cyclists; they just cause danger, irritation and resentment all round. It seems obvious to me that the best solution is to nip the militancy in the bud. That way we're dealing with the cause (the militant cyclists) rather than one of the many symptoms (the way that some people react to them). Surely the only people who would object to such a strategy are the militants themselves, and their misguided supporters. You can oppose the militants and still be every bit a "proper cyclist"; in fact, by opposing the militants, you are helping rather than betraying your fellow cyclists.

And please learn to quote properly. It's not that difficult.