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On Apr 5, 7:21=A0am, Doug  wrote: > On 4 Apr, 19:17, Phil W Lee  wrote: > > > "nightjar"  considered Sat, 4 Apr > > 2009 17:32:53 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > > >"Doug"  wrote in message > > >news:981e7162-0a07-45b8-88b8-e71de9e7abc7@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com= ... > > >> On 3 Apr, 17:59, "nightjar"  > > >.... > > >>> >> Autonomous cars, like the Prometheus project, which drove over 1= 50km > > >>> >> without > > >>> >> any human intervention, have demonstrated that completely safe c= ars > > >>> >> are > > >>> >> already a possibility. > > > >>> > And what if their circuits fail as some are bound to? > > > >>> That is what triple or higher redundancy is for. > > > >> Like so much of your pro-car propaganda, merely a pipe dream. Ever > > >> since their invention cars are still spewing out toxins only now the= re > > >> is so many more of them than ever before. > > > >Evidently, you have no idea what multiple redundancy is. It is a syste= m > > >whereby any critical control system is replicated one or more times, s= o that > > >if any one system fails, the remaining system(s) take over. Such syste= ms are > > >very safe and certainly far, far, less likely to fail than humans. > > > This of course is why aircraft equipped in such a way never, ever > > crash. > > Never ever? That is a bold claim, considering the number of crashes > there are.

Duhg, he was being sarcastic, and his point was (as usual) irrelevant, since nightjar didn't say "Such systems would never, ever fail", he said they would be "far, far less likely to fail than humans".

He's not called Phil "Wanker" Lee for nothing, you know.