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On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:32:18 -0000, "Brian Robertson"  wrote:

>I didn't read most of that rant. I have a low threshold of interest with >tossers.

Feeling's mutual. I particularly dislike sanctimonious people, who basically lower everyone else's quality of life in one way or another with pretty much everything that they do. Thank goodness you don't drive really, as you'd be constantly trying to hold up and control other drivers (though I'm sure you still do that when you're driving your beloved bus, which you shouldn't even be allowed to do given your history, not to mention your obvious disdain for the public in general).

>You really have no reason to bleat on about me being anti-motorist anyway. I >will do it for you. I would like to see cars limited to 55 m.p.h. on >motorways, 20 in built up areas and a maximum or 40 in all other areas. I >would like to see lots and lots more speed cameras and automatic bans for >two offences more than 10 m.p.h. over the limit, etc, etc, etc. Oh, and >definitely a massive increase in road tax to something directly related to >b.h.p and the value of a car. Someone driving a new gas guzzler off the >forecourt should pay up to 50% of the value of the car PER YEAR in road tax. >People should be forced off the road to the extent that car use is halved >within 5 years.

And do you think that those things are necessary from a safety or environmental point of view, or are you just in favour of them because you know that they'll make things unpleasant for motorists?

>Happy now?

Well, you admit to being anti-motorist, which is more than cowards like Chapman do. Perhaps you could ask your new friend Chapman why he lies about hating motorists (though he's probably only asked you to email him so that he can whinge about me...he doesn't like his opponents coming onto this group and embarrassing him by showing everyone how hated and how anti-motorist he is). The fact that you and him are buddies at all shows that he's anti-motorist in itself...no-one who was really on the side of the motorist would to do with them either.
 * ever* want to be mates with you, and you probably wouldn't want much

Why are you anti-motorist? Are you a socialist? Is it because of "safety" (in which case would you stop supporting speed cameras if it was proved to you that they cost lives, despite the fact that they make things difficult for the motorists whom you so despise)? If it is because of "safety", what made you such a "safety crusader" all of a sudden, when you clearly weren't bothered about it when you glugged? And why do you cycle on pavements and jump red lights? I don't think you're anti-motorist for "safety" reasons at all. Let's see if you can be honest about *that* as well.