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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: FAO Simon Brooke Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:54:57 +0100 Lines: 97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100623-0, 23/06/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 1ea72713.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=Y1X[3Jg?65k8oN[e81V=3Jo4>o4ZT7>4he3A7CTMa4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 5361 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.moderation:31376

Simon, is the below in any way "putting words in your mouth" or a "personal attack" do you think? Did you not confirm that that was what you thought just the other day?

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~webstump/g.urcm/messages/nr- 127729338017523.txt

From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jun 23 12:52:00 2010 Return-path:  To: guy.c at ..thing.invalid Subject: Re: "No Chance of a Child Running Out"? References:  In-Reply-To:  Reply-To: urcm-moderators at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+urcm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [127729338017523] reject inflammatory Message-Id:  From: webstump+urcm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:51:59 +0100

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This is tendentious, inflammatory, and a personal attack based on putting words into someone's mouth.

Thank you for your submission to uk.rec.cycling.moderated.

However, we regret to inform you that your message has been rejected because we feel it was needlessly inflammatory.

Please refer to the group charter and moderation policy at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/urcm/ and direct your queries to urcm-moderators@chiark.greenend.org.uk

If you have difficulty reaching the moderators (eg due to spamfiltering) please tell postmaster@chiark.greenend.org.uk.

Thank you, - Moderator.

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=============================== Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jun 23 12:43:00 2010 > Return-path:  > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > X-Gradwell-Mailfilter: SpamAssassin hits were BAYES_00 [Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:42:59 +0100] [rule id 203 (default-spam)] > X-Gradwell-Mailfilter: Not Spam, SpamAssassin [] hits of -2.6 (5 required) [Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:42:59 +0100] [rule id 203 (default-spam)] > X-Envelope-To: uk.rec.cycling.moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Forwarding-To: uk.rec.cycling.moderated@usenet.org.uk > Delivered-To: forwarding-uk.rec.cycling.moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Spam-Level: * > X-Spam-Check-By: spam-5.mail.thdo.gradwell.net > To: uk-rec-cycling-moderated@moderators.isc.org > From: Guy Cuthbertson  > Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling.moderated > Subject: "No Chance of a Child Running Out"? > Message-ID:  > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100623-0, 23/06/2010), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > Organization: Zen Internet > X-Trace: DXC=]Q^BZI@O9Zo6Y=L7eg?f5k8oN[e81Vm3Jo4>o4ZT7n4WBbb@YLFfn > X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk > X-Gradwell-Message-ID: 54967887 > X-Gradwell-Forwarding-Rule: 1238298 > X-Gradwell-Edge-Server: inbound-edge-7.mail.thdo.gradwell.net > X-Gwh-Spam-Score: -2.6 > X-Gwh-Spam-Flags: BAYES_00 > > Simon Brooke has stated the following (possibly paraphrased) on more > than one occasion: "I believe that if I am driving or cycling there is > no chance of a child running out in front of me and causing an > accident." > > I personally think this is impossible to ensure. What do others think? > What if Simon is driving or cycling past a pelican crossing where people > are waiting for the green man on his side of the road? He would have to > slow to an absolute crawl to ensure that he could stop if someone ran > out in front of him. People don't do this in the real world, there's no > need to do it, and if they did do it then (understandably IMHO) those > behind would get rather fed up. > > I would go on and provide some more examples, as I think there are many, > but the more I write, the more opportunity there is for this post to be > blocked, so I'll leave it there for now.

More pathetic censorship based on the rejecting "moderators'" personal opinions of posters, and their desperation to stop "one of the boys" being shown to be wrong in any way. Clinch in particular should be sacked at once. The above is absolutely typical of him.