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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!bandi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!reader02.news.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.net.news.moderation Subject: Do We Need "uk.net.news.moderation.urcm" or "uk.rec.cycling.moderated.meta"? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 04:49:10 -0000 Lines: 24 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.14 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 4d72ad17.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=W5UG;M27FWjIgV_m`EU;eoYjZGX^207Pk`4O;OWA;Ud X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2384 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.net.news.moderation:36145

Since uk.net.news.moderation has been swamped with complaints about uk.rec.cycling.moderated ever since the latter's creation, and some have objected to this and the tangential cycling-related discussion that has been generated, and the many URC/URCM-related conflicts being imported to UNNM, is it better to have a separate newsgroup to focus on all the URCM-related problems, at least until URCM is sorted out? Maybe "uk.net.news.moderation.urcm" or "uk.rec.cycling.moderated.meta"?

Then UNNM can once again become a relatively quiet and pleasant place where the occasional moderation dispute regarding mostly well-moderated uk.* newsgroups can be quickly and amicably resolved. That seems a rather different proposition to what we have with URCM (i.e. most reasonable people constantly telling the "moderators" what they're doing wrong and the "moderators" simply responding (or not) with "Tough shit, we're not changing what we do").

Quite clearly, whatever your views on its "moderation", URCM is a special case among uk.* moderated newsgroups in terms of the amount of heated discussion and ill-feeling that it almost constantly creates. AIUI normally on a newsgroup where a particular subcategory is generating far more discussion than all other subcategories combined, that subcategory is given its own specific newsgroup so as to avoid skewing the general discussion too much. This surely is just such an instance.