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On Jul 2, 6:22=A0pm, Ian Smith  wrote: > > The charter and guiodelines DO NOT say that.

Why does it surprise you so much to find that the charter/guidelines will be completely ignored as soon as the group is passed (if it is)? The charter/guidelines have been created purely because they were required as part of the process; there has never been any genuine intention to follow them. The guidelines that will actually be followed simply say "Reject posts which contain certain points of view and/or are made by certain people", but of course those weren't used as the official guidelines because the whole thing is an exercise in deceit, and the proponent was worried that the group wouldn't pass if he was honest about what would *really* happen once it had.

Simon Brooke clearly made a mistake in letting on that the official guidelines would be thrown out of the window from the second that the group was passed; the idea was to wait until it was too late before admitting that. Hopefully that particular mistake will be fatal to the whole sorry business.