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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!prichard.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Guy Cuthbertson  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Bus lane moaners. Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:00:25 -0000 References:   <2eadndaaRpovforWnZ2dnUVZ8uednZ2d@pipex.net>             <MPG.258629c28959c6ea9896d2@news.zen.co.uk> <F9Gdnb9iFbDHYIHWnZ2dnUVZ8sWdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk> <MPG.2587679d738fb3f99896d5@news.zen.co.uk> <7ea8c4ba-01a7-4fb6-aa6e-137624a5b97c@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Lines: 28 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.13 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: c5349e45.news.zen.co.uk X-Trace: DXC=MnJU:iSG4_IBXUbIc<\C3B0g@SS;SF6nGR9OH0:RnEND:hoe0Z_FD?F`:ITG5aA:cGS7?Gf3b>hKG X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Bytes: 2922 X-Original-Bytes: 2867 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:745934

In article <7ea8c4ba-01a7-4fb6-aa6e- 137624a5b97c@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, MasonS@BP.com says... > > On 7 Dec, 19:28, Guy Cuthbertson <gu...@nothing.invalid> wrote: > > In article <F9Gdnb9iFbDHYIHWnZ2dnUVZ8sWdn...@eclipse.net.uk>, > > > > > Semantics. Let's keep this simple: do you believe that speed cameras > > and lowered speed limits are used (at least in part) to discourage > > motoring in the same way that you've admitted bus lanes are? If not, > > how can you be so sure? > > I don't really care to be honest.

I didn't ask whether you *cared*. Do you believe that speed cameras and lowered limits are used to discourage motoring? You must either believe or disbelieve it. Which one is it? (Are you worried that if you admit to believing it, the car-hating fuckwits will turn on you for daring to speak a truth which they would rather keep suppressed? You really shouldn't let them have their bullying way with you.)

> I just drive at whatever the speed limit is or less if applicable.

Course you do. All the time. I bet you've never set off a SID in your life. Or have you? (Is that another question that you're unwilling to answer?)