Nuxx:E4a6bda7-a78e-41ee-b722-b49634cc29a8@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com

Path: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID:  From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling Subject: Re: Another Motorist-Hating Freak, But At Least He Admits It Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:44:42 -0800 (PST) References: <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c161d@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <47c485fb$0$8419$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> Lines: 48 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.211.165.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204069482 10347 127.0.0.1 (26 Feb 2008 23:44:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.211.165.120; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3745 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:642051

On Feb 26, 9:41 pm, "Just Visiting"  wrote: > "Nuxx Bar"  wrote in message > > news:24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c161d@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > "I hate cars. If I ever get any power again, I'll ban the lot." > > Ken Livingstone, 1988 > > > And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no > > anti-motorist measures whatsoever. ROTFL. The bullshit that they > > have to come out with to maintain the lie. Is it really worth it? > > A quick Google of that quote shows a whole nine hits. One of which is this > thread, and one is Ken denying ever saying it in a BBC interview. > > Your respond to a previous question in this thread asking for a source where > you say "the Conservative Party" shows that you've already done that Google > (as it's from the BBC story).

What do you want? A medal?

> So nuxxy baby, which is more likely: that he actually said it, or that > you're a complete cock? What do you think the odds are?

Which is more likely: that you and your troll mates just happen to be exactly like anti-motorist wankers in every way, or that you actually are anti-motorist wankers? What do you think the odds are?

And since you asked so charmingly, I think he did say it. As with you lot, when you look at the overwhelming evidence, the idea that he doesn't hate cars is just too ridiculous for words. And when you look at his track record with alcohol (e.g. drinking whisky instead of the usual water at press conferences), together with the fact that people tend to lose their inhibitions when they get rat-arsed, I think he probably did let it slip when he was pissed one night. If you're going to tell habitual lies and make a habit of covering up what you really think, drinking to excess isn't a good idea. It's like the racist twat who manages to keep his (justifiably unpopular) opinions in check in the workplace, only to spill the beans at the office party. Livingstone spilt the beans about his foul attitude towards motorists, and no amout of lying after the event (or trolls leaping to his defence) will change that.

(Thanks for the completely unprovoked ad hominem BTW. Do you go round high streets walking up to people who've never met or spoken to you and calling them cocks?  Or would you be too scared of getting a kicking?  Is it easier when you've got the Internet to cower behind? What does that say about you?)