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Path: num2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!num1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!number.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4cf870f2-9740-4821-9482-50b916c111c9@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> From: Nuxx Bar  Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling,uk.net.news.config Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: create moderated newsgroup uk.rec.cycling.moderated Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) References:        <1j1tf12.v44mld1vw287bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <3r4545tgik6hiie4r5nreb8uj5cr5nr04e@4ax.com>   <7aoirbF1vfd9gU1@mid.individual.net>   <20090628145425.6f2efecf@bluemoon>  <1j212ad.14whw2dnqti3mN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>  Lines: 38 Organization: http://groups.google.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.160.138.240 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1246228304 8385 127.0.0.1 (28 Jun 2009 22:31:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.160.138.240; posting-account=7_6kYAkAAABD6HrjM0VxehwvZOKMxm4g User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4024 Xref: perfectly-safe.chapmancentral.co.uk uk.rec.cycling:5886 uk.net.news.config:54367

On Jun 28, 5:18=A0pm, "Nigel Cliffe"  wrote: > Steve Firth wrote: > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0And of course there is the fact that= if the regulars > > used their kill files and didn't get sucked into "Tis/Tisn't" > > argument and name-calling then there wouldn't be a Theatre of the > > Absurd to put off potential new users. > > A significant number of people do that already. But the behaviour goes > largely unseen. > Last autumn there were numerous posts asking people to desist from engagi= ng > in troll threads. But some carried on.

Perhaps because the "troll threads" are actually usually interesting threads which, if started by a non-"troll", even the likes of you would happily respond to. Just because not everyone bothers with the "I'm going to refuse to participate in that thread, even though it's an interesting subject, just because a 'troll' started it" nonsense that the more arrogant types like you indulge in, doesn't mean it's their fault that this group has become like it has. In fact, the problem lies more with the likes of you, dismissing people as "trolls" simply because they disagree with you.

At the end of the day, if a "troll" starts a thread about an interesting news story before anyone else gets the chance to, who are you helping by stubbornly refusing to participate? You're just shooting yourself, and URC, in the foot, and it's self-defeating, arrogant attitudes like that towards "trolls" (those who disagree with you) which have actually caused the downfall of URC.

What is it going to take for you to accept that and correct your behaviour? Would it really be so terrible to accept that some people have different opinions to you and they have every right ot be heard? Isn't it worth biting the bullet and learning to do that if it saves URC? Do you care about the group or do you just care about your precious pride?