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On 11/07/2011 19:59, Simon Mason wrote: > > The more pavement cyclists who are fined - the better for me

Good, we agree there then.

> as they > give the rest of us a bad name and gives people such as yourself a > stick to beat us with.

"People such as myself"? I think you'll find that I judge each situation on its merits, and if I think a cyclist is in the right (or a motorist is in the wrong), I'll happily say so. I only wish that the car-haters would stop with their "us and them" nonsense and accept that all drivers are not homicidal maniacs who are automatically "in the wrong" simply for being on 4 wheels (and, despite your rather naive protests to the contrary, such people absolutely do exist, I'm afraid...I'd love to be able to agree with you that they don't).

When was the last time that Doug blamed the cyclist when a cyclist/motorist altercation was reported on here? And while we're on the subject, when was the last time *you* blamed the cyclist...?